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Subwoofer Comparison
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Three subs in total? Don't have space for them unfortunately, will need to be one or the other...
I would get another non-pro, but try to find it cheaper than that. Only if i couldn't fit a larger sub and just start all over. IIRC if you can put the sub wherever you want and only care about 1 seat you can get by with just 1 beefy sub.
That's what i eventually did. Tomorrow I'll pick up the non pro for 450 eur. Difficult to get it cheaper over here. Even used 350-400 euros is the usual price. Let's see what it brings, besides symmetry
Audioholics just released their review of the RSL Speedwoofer 10S MKII.
Looks like a great value for $449. Slots right between the SVS SB-1000 Pro and PB-1000 Pro in terms of performance and size.
Looks like a great value for $449. Slots right between the SVS SB-1000 Pro and PB-1000 Pro in terms of performance and size.
Finally tried measuring my current sub at a higher volume level. In-room and all that, so can't really compare to free-field, but one important observation is that it would seem the sub won't even go much over 80 dB at the 20-30 Hz range - I suppose it's either maxed out excursion, or simply amp out of steam. Like one measurement where 30 Hz was at 80 dB, and then increased +5 dB and +7 dB sweeps - after 30 Hz it indeed increased by that much, but below it was only 1-2 dB. +7dB really started to do ugly things in general, so neighbor disturbances aside best not push it. Also a massive 2nd harmonic spike at 30 Hz in general. Not sure if it's the driver, the enclosure or the room.
I suppose around 80-82 dB of (distorted) volume at 20-30 Hz would make sense for this sub, given it's an older 10" sealed budget model. So it definitely wouldn't compare favorably to a PB-1000, not much surprise there! Back to pondering...
I suppose around 80-82 dB of (distorted) volume at 20-30 Hz would make sense for this sub, given it's an older 10" sealed budget model. So it definitely wouldn't compare favorably to a PB-1000, not much surprise there! Back to pondering...
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What subs can anyone recommend me? My AVR can take up to 140 watt (8 ohm nominal impedancen) and my room size is 4 meter wide and 2,9 meter long, height is 2,4 meter
You mean 999€? Edit - they have a 799€ promo price again atm.
Monolith 12in THX Ultra Certified Subwoofer | 500 Watt
The Monolith™ THX® certified subwoofer sets the standard for bass output, low distortion, and affordability. With chest thumping bass that plays down to well under 20Hz, the Monolith subwoofer unleashes cinema level volume, with the ability to convey and articulate the subtle nuances of music...
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bathroomskank
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I wish it was available in Europe ...
jamesgordan
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RSL Speedwoofer 10S MKII looks great for the price point. Has anyone tried it yet?
Just above you. Audioholics is quite respectable and their review would be more trustworthy than almost every single individual opinion here
jamesgordan
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I agree as I check Audioholics regularly but still I wanted to see if someone is actually using it.
a good sub is a good sub. if you want a safe bet, SVS SB1000/PB1000 is very good for its price
Silly question:My current sub is from 2006 but the main specs are:
Frequency response 30–200 Hz
(at maximum crossover frequency)
Crossover frequency 50–200 Hz (variable)
Maximum output power 150 W Dynamic
20 cm woofer
Some of the new subs today seem to be the same or slightly less on some of these specs eg the Klipsch R-8SW which has a FREQUENCY RESPONSE 38Hz-120Hz +/-3dB
150W max dynamic output, same size woofer
Both are down firing
Is the Klispch a better performer simply because of the brand and/or because its newer even though the specs are no better?
Frequency response 30–200 Hz
(at maximum crossover frequency)
Crossover frequency 50–200 Hz (variable)
Maximum output power 150 W Dynamic
20 cm woofer
Some of the new subs today seem to be the same or slightly less on some of these specs eg the Klipsch R-8SW which has a FREQUENCY RESPONSE 38Hz-120Hz +/-3dB
150W max dynamic output, same size woofer
Both are down firing
Is the Klispch a better performer simply because of the brand and/or because its newer even though the specs are no better?
holbob
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Bk Electronics are not in the same class for 20hz extension as monolith monoprice. Then again, neither are SVS. But BK are not close to SVS are 20hz either.
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There's so many aspects of a subwoofer design (total amplifier power, amplifier's distortion handling, woofer size, woofer's excursion handling, cabinet size, cabinet damping, electronics, etc).
Without measuring both subs using the CEA-2010-A standard, we can't say for sure whether the newer Klipsch is a better performer than your old sub.
You can't assume that because one subwoofer is a newer design that it's automatically a better performer.
We need to test both subs, ideally.
Also, reading manufacturer's website for information like 'peak power' or 'frequency response' is meaningless. Since we don't know what these values mean, practically, it's useless information.
The only useful information you can get from a manufacturer's website is the size of the woofer, whether the design is ported/sealed, and cabinet size (volume).
Which gives you an indication of their output capabilities (peak output and how low the extension is).
The only true test of a subwoofer's performance is the CEA-2010-A since there's no way for a subwoofer to cheat this test. If there's not enough output for a given frequency, that's it. You can't make a 8" sub outperform a competently-designed 12" sub.
As they say "There's no replacement for displacement", which means woofer size is an indicator of performance.
But of course, not all brands are created equal. Certain subwoofer companies maximize performance for your dollar, while others overcharge you. And most subwoofers are just awful.
My spreadsheet allows you to find out how good Klipsch subs are (tip: they're not very good), but more importantly find better performing subs, so you're not wasting your money.
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