Then Cosmos is unable to be used with most DACs in unbalanced operation? Anyone here cares to actually test some DACs in on RCA outputs, please?
Is the ADC running in mono or stereo mode when you’re testing unbalanced?
Then Cosmos is unable to be used with most DACs in unbalanced operation? Anyone here cares to actually test some DACs in on RCA outputs, please?
Then Cosmos is unable to be used with most DACs in unbalanced operation? Anyone here cares to actually test some DACs in on RCA outputs, please?
ODAC v1 contains no any opamps-buffer at all just 220ohm in serial to pcm5102. Even 10k will affect the THD performance there, it is such a kind of junk-DAC, you can try to measure that at 10V ADC setting.Since Day1 I had troubles measuring non-balanced signals. On Motu M4 and Clarett 2Pre I get very good results, while on Cosmos ADC I get crappy ones, see below:
View attachment 163423What am I doing wrong? It doesn't matters if I'm using an RCA - XLR cable (V+ connected to hot, V- connected to GND) or the default Cosmos ADC cables with spades, I get the same huge harmonics. It happens on all DACs but Topping D90 MQA (which has a very low output impedance).
ODAC v1 measured on Cosmos ADC (1 ch., Stereo mode) - SINAD of 45.5 dB
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ODAC v1 measured on Motu M4 Input #1 - SINAD of 95 dB
Any thoughts, please?
Ugh.ODAC v1 contains no any opamps-buffer at all just 220ohm in serial to pcm5102.
ODAC v1 contains no any opamps-buffer at all just 220ohm in serial to pcm5102. Even 10k will affect the THD performance there, it is such a kind of junk-DAC, you can try to measure that at 10V ADC setting.
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I did already Ivan, see my above graph; sme huge harmonics. Same thing happens with another DAC that has a discrete output buffer made of TO92 transistors, so quite a beefy buffer.you can try to measure that at 10V ADC setting
There are opamps inside the DAC chip itself, it's normal this way.Ugh.
These values represent stereo mode (1 input used) and balanced. If you measure mono, by splitting the signal to both XLR inputs, you get half these values, 1.4 k Ohms for 7.6 V rms.Per https://e1dashz.wixsite.com/index/cosmos-adc Input ranges/impedance:
1.7Vrms 640Ω
2.7Vrms 1kΩ
3.5Vrms 1.3kΩ
4.5Vrms 1.66kΩ
6.7Vrms 2.46kΩ
7.6Vrms 2.82kΩ
8.5Vrms 3.12kΩ
10Vrms 3.48kΩ
43Vrms 13.6kΩ
Note: unbalanced impedance about 30% less.
ODAC and Objective2 are the first interesting DIY audio projects in the world that proved audio transparency baked up by measurements done with AP equipment and these audio devices started a hole new generation of objectivists audiophiles! Based on AP's measurements made by its designer, ODAC is a transparent-enough DAC; in an A/B test, with FLAC songs, I can't tell which one is ODAC and which one is D90.sure, on the other hand, you can quickly detect junk DACs that have troubles being loaded at a few Kohms.
You're not.I'll be the only one having issues here.
I hope if you do a "pro", 1U rack version, it will include a PS or be powered by PD USB-C.trl, if I want to keep max voltage 10Vrms, I need to make +/-16VDC(instead of +/-6.5VDC now) rails inside of COsmos ADC for the buffers. That dramatically increases the current draw and actually may reach USB2(500mA) or even USB3(900mA) limit. Technically it is a trivial task but seems I'll not able to offer you so simple USB-C power.
The Cosmos ADC was intended as a tool for E1DA customers to calibrate their 9038S and 9038D units, which have an output impedance of .1/.07Ω, and so input buffers would've only reduced the dynamic range.ODAC and Objective2 are the first interesting DIY audio projects in the world that proved audio transparency baked up by measurements done with AP equipment and these audio devices started a hole new generation of objectivists audiophiles! Based on AP's measurements made by its designer, ODAC is a transparent-enough DAC; in an A/B test, with FLAC songs, I can't tell which one is ODAC and which one is D90.
Ivan, don't get me wrong here, I DO LOVE COSMOS ADC and I consider it's the most affordable audio measuring equipment in the world, but given that AP, dScope and Quantasylum devices are all having a default input impedance of 100 kOhms what do you think of adding a switchable input impedance on a future Cosmos ADC, like dScope Series III has: "100kR, 600R or 150/200R (jumper)"?
However, looking for others to see if they encounter impedance issues, hope I'll be the only one having issues here.
Thank you for understanding!