Subwoofer Comparison

[Nydus]

Found the problem with the XTZ 12.17 Edge. If I plug both sources in (Topping MX3S and Denon X1700H) the Subwoofer gets very quiet. If I use an Antimode in between it works. Very strange behavior. I contacted XTZ Support but till know they just asked some question and didn´t seem all that helpful or willing.

I also have an Arendal 1961 1V here. Sadly this one goes crazy on the grounding. As soon as my Graphics Card does some work (and even in idle a little) it gets a very very bad humming. Even with the Antimode in between nothing changes. Arendal Support is superb but I dont think they can help me with this one. So I´ll have to sell the Arendal it seems.

Edit: The Arendal support came trough for me. They suggested to tape over the grounds on the power cable from the 1961 and by god it worked perfectly. The homepage states that should not be an issue since the sub is also isolated on itself or something like that. I´m really happy now since the 1961 1V is endgame for my setup. I cant fit anything bigger and i dont think there is any subwoofer in white that would top this one for my 50m³ room.

 

[sasmarso0]

The price difference is practically nothing. I see the Kef is € 589 and the SVS is € 599 (oak version, gloss is € 699). So one would have to buy a miniDSP extra with the Kef. Personally I do everything (playback, EQ etc.) on a HTPC, so I would have no interest in in-built EQ.

Svs sb 1000 pro is 749€ here in Germany . Is that a normal msrp price or inflation price?

 

[Nydus]

Svs sb 1000 pro is 749€ here in Germany . Is that a normal msrp price or inflation price?

They raised prices some time ago and it was a substantial increase. For that price there are a lot of options. Depends what you want/need/can spend.

 

[sasmarso0]

Maybe, but not in EU. Only option was SVS for me after a bunch of reviews and readings here. But still, I would not paying 150€ more for something what is not meant to cost so much in this category. Any suggestions?

 

[Nydus]

Whats your budget and how many cubic meters is your room?

 

[sasmarso0]

Whats your budget and how many cubic meters is your room?

600€ and 5x5 meters

 

[Nydus]

How high is your ceiling? m³ is more important for subwoofers then m².

 

[sasmarso0]

3m

 

[Nydus]

That's a lot of room for that amount of money. Maybe the Klipsch R-115SW. It's not crazy great and the amp will most likely die but it's very good for the price.

 

[sasmarso0]

That's a lot of room for that amount of money. Maybe the Klipsch R-115SW. It's not crazy great and the amp will most likely die but it's very good for the price.

Not fan of a Klipsch. I could easily pair my passive speakers with Teufel if I wanted to but for 600€ I can find something better in world of Subs . So sb 1000 pro would be to weak as well because cost around 600?

 

[Nydus]

If you don't have anything to compare to the SB 1000 will be fine. But it will reach its limits much faster then a ported sub. I had one produce a nice bass but it had to be cranked so far for it that it bottomed out in some scenes. It is still good nonetheless and maybe with a bit of tweaking it will be good enough for you. A white Sub for 600€ is a bit tough. You could also look at BK subs. They are quality and maybe the P12-300SB-PR could be enough. Your room is not small and a small sub will reach its limits with it.

You could also try to pick up a used Sub from a premium brand with warranty on it. I know that Arendal gives second hand buyers full warranty. Don't know about XTZ or svs.

Or get a PB 1000 pro and put white foil on it.

 

[sasmarso0]

Yes it is connected to the Denon and been using it for about a year and it sounds wonderful

Yes it is connected to the Denon and been using it for about a year and it sounds wonderful

What do you think, can that amp pull 2 subwoofers of that power?

 

[sasmarso0]

What do you think, can that amp pull 2 subwoofers of that power?

I often see recommendations from others that two are better than one.

 

[sasmarso0]

In Europe I would say that the Jamo C912 is a rather good buy, as you can get 2 for the same price as for example an SVS SB1000 and they will give you more or less the same output AND help fight room modes.

What about Canton Power sub12 (german made) ? Can someone do a measurements? Cost like Svs 1000 pro and it has more Watts.

 

[Nydus]

Ah yes Canton and their wonder subs. Going down to 20Hz with 200W AMP in a sealed sub lol

The subs are okayisch. Depending on what you get and what you expect. If it has to be Canton get the Sub 500 R. Dont take it the wrong way but I think you will be happy regardless of what you buy.

And before you think about two subs. Get one good sub and expand further down the line if you need more. 2 good subs for 500 to 700€ is a pretty tough call.

 

[_thelaughingman]

What do you think, can that amp pull 2 subwoofers of that power?

I'm not sure if it can handle two subs. It has a pre out for the sub, and assuming that you'd use some sort of splitter to connect two subs. I'd try one sub first before you dive into two as a push pull.

 

[Curvature]

Fresh From the Bench: KEF KC62 Subwoofer with Uni-Core Driver Technology

Following the review of the KEF LS50 Meta speakers for audioXpress, this article offers a detailed review of the KC62 compact subwoofer, which combines KEF's force-canceling and Uni-Core technologies in a new approach to allow maximizing bass in a minimum space. Masciarotte did the listening and...

audioxpress.com

CTA-2010B for KEF KC62 here.

 

[TheAVInsider]

Hope there is an update coming to the awesome compilation spreadsheet so graciously shared here. If there is, I would love to see this added.
RSL 12S
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RSL Speedwoofer 12S Subwoofer Review - True 16Hz Extension!

The RSL Speedwoofer 12S builds on the venerable 10S MK2 but with a larger 12” driver and enclosure with 16Hz extension for only $800. We reviewed the 12S to see if RSL has a class leader subwoofer again.

www.audioholics.com

 

[nat1]

I'm more surprised by the variable high pass filter knob giving you a 24db/octave slope anywhere from 30-250hz. I wish more subwoofer manufacturers did this

 

[Biblob]

Just released from Kali:
Kali WS 6.2 dual-opposing subwoofer using two 6,5 inch driver

At $500 it might be a good rival for the Kef KC62 and SVS 3000 Micro. Just have to wait for measurements to be sure though.