Amir received two different samples of the XMC-2 and they both measured poorly. Not a fluke!The bad score 85 of the XMC-2 is on my humble opinion irrelevant (probably an erratic measurements or due to a software problem).
Amir received two different samples of the XMC-2 and they both measured poorly. Not a fluke!The bad score 85 of the XMC-2 is on my humble opinion irrelevant (probably an erratic measurements or due to a software problem).
The XMC-1 and RMC-2 measured quite good, wonder what happened to the xmc-2...Amir received two different samples of the XMC-2 and they both measured poorly. Not a fluke!
Oh. Didn't know that...Amir received two different samples of the XMC-2 and they both measured poorly. Not a fluke!
Sample 1: Sep 5, 2021Oh. Didn't know that...
Yes. Logically they now can do something to make their next gen (XMC-2+) better. Don’t know if they intend to. Don’t even know if the question was asked on the Emo Lounge… Many of XMC-2 want to upgrade for the RMC-1. Now I know whySample 1: Sep 5, 2021
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Emotiva XMC-2 Review (AV Processor)
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Emotiva XMC-2 Audio/Video Processor (AVP). It is on kind loan from a member and costs US $3,000. The XMC-2 is surprisingly light for a high-end processor which my back appreciated as I carried it around: Ironically, the remote is made out of...www.audiosciencereview.com
Sample 2: Sept 17, 2022
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Emotiva XMC-2 AVP Review (Sample 2)
This is a review and detailed measurements of the second sample of Emotiva XMC-2 AV Processor. It costs and US $3,199 and was kindly supplied by a member. Please see my sample 1 review of XMC-2 for details. Here, I am going to focus on measurements only. For simplicity and giving the...www.audiosciencereview.com
As reviews were about a year apart, Emotiva could have done something to make it better but they didn't!
I’m wondering if an upgrade to the AV 10 is the best way for me to gain better control of 4 subs without going to a much more expensive processor and still maintaining the ability to have 15 channels wired for flexibility between Atmos/DTS/Auro sources. I don’t know how I would interface my Crowson amp without some kind of compromise, but not sure that is a deal breaker. I would gain the ability to use XLRs on all but the Crowson amp. Not sure exactly where my bit of noise is coming from but it seems to come from Denon since it quiets when Denon is on standby.
To me, it is an easy decision, sell or trade-in the avr-x8500h for the AV10. Sell the minidsp too (I would sell mine that I disconnected long ago, if I can find a local user). Then you will end up with something smaller, lighter, and with less cable clutter (by eliminating the 2 minidsps that imo likely are not doing any good anyway.I bought a Denon 8500 based on the review here and am running in preamp mode. Interesting that this AV 10 measures even better. I am using VTV Hypex amps for all channels. I have 4 subs and am pondering moving the RS2s to the back of the room in hopes of getting better, more uniform, response among seats. I have 2 minidsp 2x4HDs with signal coming out of Denon into back one with out RCA output going to other 2x4HD and other going to amp powering the Crowsons. I’ve heard daisy chaining the Minidsps could be adding some delay. I of course have to use the Denon’s RCAs and do get some noise in the system upon turn on (that I can ignore but would prefer not to) with some noticeable hum in the subs (which is harder to ignore).
I’m wondering if an upgrade to the AV 10 is the best way for me to gain better control of 4 subs without going to a much more expensive processor and still maintaining the ability to have 15 channels wired for flexibility between Atmos/DTS/Auro sources. I don’t know how I would interface my Crowson amp without some kind of compromise, but not sure that is a deal breaker. I would gain the ability to use XLRs on all but the Crowson amp. Not sure exactly where my bit of noise is coming from but it seems to come from Denon since it quiets when Denon is on standby.
Thoughts? I have a bad habit of spending money when I don’t need to. Not looking for a reason to spend the money and time and hassle swapping, but if it is going to improve all of these things mentioned, I may be convinced.
Gear list below:
Denon X8500HA for 7.2.6
3 monoblock VTV Hypex NC2000 amps for LCR
3 4-channel VTV Hypex NC502MP amps for others
JTR 212HTR for LCR
JTR 110HT for others
Dual JTR Orbit Shifter LFUs
Dual JTR RS2s
8-channel bridged to power 4 Crowsons for front row
JVC NZ7
Stewart Wallscreen Deluxe 16:9 175” Studiotek 130 G4 THX Microperf
Full room GIK acoustic treatments
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These small MiniDSP are absolutely entrance level DSPs. Nice to try and fool around but nothing what fits in a chain of your level. What function do they do in your setup?I have 2 minidsp 2x4HDs with signal coming out of Denon into back one with out RCA output going to other 2x4HD and other going to amp powering the Crowsons.
These small MiniDSP are absolutely entrance level DSPs. Nice to try and fool around but nothing what fits in a chain of your level.
Just get one of the good units! The newer releases are fine!, it will still be beneficial to have a MiniDSP ...
I could get +/- 1 dB or tighter without using my minidsp for the range between 20 to 120 Hz, 1/12 smoothing, that's with 2 subs and the mains. If mso can improve that further I don't think it would sound audibly better so imo not with the extra cable clutter. Of course ymmv.MSO: Multisub optimizer is something that many power users say is superior to DLBC. Until we officially get Dirac ART outside of a Storm Audio product, it will still be beneficial to have a MiniDSP if you have multiple subs and want more control than DLBC.
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Multi-Sub Optimizer (MSO): Lessons Learned, Tips & Tricks
Every time I use Multi-Sub Optimizer (MSO) I learn something new, or maybe I just forget what I learned last time! I don't want to repeat what is already available in the MSO documentation and online videos, but I thought it might be useful to create this thread to gather lessons learned from...www.audiosciencereview.com
It’s the two Sharc ADSP21573s DSPs that take care of that.Inside the AV10 which components are necessary for Dirac ART? (Chip or card, RAM)
Mostly that is a question of what goes well with your speakers ... as long as your speakers requirements in terms of load are covered (not all amps do well with low impedance, capacitive drivers, etc...) then all decent amps will sound alike.Can someone recommend a multichannel power amplifier with AV10 that is also good for 2 channel listening too ? Thanks in advance
Noted with thanks. However, the only review I keep seeing is the Marantz combo. I hope some AV10 owners are using other brand of multichannel amp with more favourable results,especially on 2 channel listening ! Right now I am using an old Krell S1500 plus a Emotiva XPA5, for all 9 channels.