Marantz AV10 AV Processor Review

[Piatnik]

As others noted your plan should work.

For future Genelecs without the bass units you could set them as small and crossover at 40hz. That would give them enough to chew on and below 40hz signal would go to larger fronts with bass units. Could also try 60hz and see what works better.

If you set them as large, I think they would also get the LFE as fronts and that might be too much for them and you could loose some low end signal for those channels as opposed to above.

There might be LFE+Main setting to try, but not sure if it would work without sub/s.

Would you do EQ with your Genelecs and all future Genelec speakers and disengage Audyssey?

Yes, that’s my plan, to EQ with GLM. That’s the only way, anyway, with the W371. And I am confident that would be the best result.

 

[broncogr]

 

[alvigg]

Indicated that it would be later this year.

 

[alvigg]

 

[jgcamil]

Quick one for the AMP 10 users:
I currently have the 3 front speakers (LFR) biamped (Bowers CM10 S2 / center). What would be the benefit of bridging the same speakers vs biamp?

 

[markstein]

For this amount of money 48 kHz is poor. For movies it is ok as most content is at 48 kHz. I am really looking for something that can do music as well as non av products.

I did not do a double blind test. At least for the John Lennon's Mind Games remix the 192 kHz to my ears is far superior than the 48k.

Is DIRAC also at 48 kHz? If I use the equalizer is that also downsampled?

It does sound much better than a Denon X3600 is pre-amp mode. For stereo 48 kHz is fine for media produced at that rate. By why downsample if the original mastering was done at 192kHZ.

Thanks for all the responses.

48 kHz is pretty much sufficient for any kind of playback (movies and music). The sweet spot IMO.

 

[Oddball]

48 kHz is pretty much sufficient for any kind of playback (movies and music). The sweet spot IMO.

Same here. As I understand many of the mixes that are higher sampled might actually be different mixes than 48kHz, so it's not actually comparing just the sample rate.

If comparing the identical mix sampled at 48kHz or higher rate, I would think that only Elves could tell the difference. Perhaps some still have some of the Elven blood in them and thus we can't seem to understand how they can actually hear the difference.

 

[Goodfellas27]

Quick one for the AMP 10 users:
I currently have the 3 front speakers (LFR) biamped (Bowers CM10 S2 / center). What would be the benefit of bridging the same speakers vs biamp?

Bridge would provide 3db of extra dynamic range. Bi

48 kHz is pretty much sufficient for any kind of playback (movies and music). The sweet spot IMO.

See the AMP20 review
Audioholics talks about that

 

[Newman]

And yet the AV8805 continues production? Do people think it is redundant, or has its own place?

 

[Jost Buergi]

And yet the AV8805 continues production? Do people think it is redundant, or has its own place?

Marantz not only just announced the new AV20 but also an even more affordable AV30. When those become available I don’t think the AV8805 will stay in production (just my expectation).

 

[TheAVInsider]

AV20 replaces AV8805A
AV30 replaces AV7706
so those will not be continued
There is no question

 

[Goodfellas27]

You may need headphones for the demo

 

[Newman]

You are required to provide some more summary information than that, please.

Although I am tempted to say the title alone is a put-off with its sensationalism.

 

[Oddball]

Has anyone tried to get the second set of surrounds out of AV-10 when using 4 Atmos? It is apparently possible but not really sure if AV-10 will treat it any different that Y-splitter would? Like levels, independent EQ, etc.

While there is a mild case of wanting 2nd set of surrounds in my case, more of theoretical question.

 

[Goodfellas27]

Has anyone tried to get the second set of surrounds out of AV-10 when using 4 Atmos? It is apparently possible but not really sure if AV-10 will treat it any different that Y-splitter would? Like levels, independent EQ, etc.

While there is a mild case of wanting 2nd set of surrounds in my case, more of theoretical question.

Yes. You could have a second set of surround. The speakers layout would be custom in the AV10 speaker configuration. You would chose which speaker pre would act as the second set of surround.
They are videos on YouTube showing how to do it.
The RoomEQ (Dirac or Audyssey) will see it as its own speaker and EQ it accordingly. You get true independent control over each speaker. It's usually for HT with two rows configuration.
Instead of a 7.1.4 setup, you could configure a 9.1.4 or 11.1.4 setup.
For 9.1.4: You would have Front L/R, Center, Surround L/R, Rear Surround L/R, and four Atmos height channels. This adds a dedicated pair of "rear surrounds" behind the main listening position.
For 11.1.4: You could also add Front Wide speakers to the mix, for a total of 11 bed layer channels plus the 4 height channels.
The key is that the AV 10 has the processing power and the physical pre-outs to handle these extra channels.

 

[Oddball]

Yes. You could have a second set of surround. The speakers layout would be custom in the AV10 speaker configuration. You would chose which speaker pre would act as the second set of surround.
They are videos on YouTube showing how to do it.
The RoomEQ (Dirac or Audyssey) will see it as its own speaker and EQ it accordingly. You get true independent control over each speaker. It's usually for HT with two rows configuration.
Instead of a 7.1.4 setup, you could configure a 9.1.4 or 11.1.4 setup.
For 9.1.4: You would have Front L/R, Center, Surround L/R, Rear Surround L/R, and four Atmos height channels. This adds a dedicated pair of "rear surrounds" behind the main listening position.
For 11.1.4: You could also add Front Wide speakers to the mix, for a total of 11 bed layer channels plus the 4 height channels.
The key is that the AV 10 has the processing power and the physical pre-outs to handle these extra channels.

Many thanks - this is really awesome and a great feature. I wonder why they don't evidence that in the manual.

In my possible application it would be 11.4.4 which would fill the 2 m "hole" between the surrounds and backs, so that all bed channels would be spaced at roughly 1 m. With summer season kicking in, definitively will not do it now. But when November rains start, might be up for it.

Theoretically - would the same apply if you wanted to designate 2 unused outputs as subs? So that Audy would see 6 subs to EQ as a group? Think done with subs, so just pure curiosity.

 

[Settembrini]

I used to be all Marantz; had the MM7055 also but I changed that to a Hypex NC502 amp. Can't say I can hear the difference but I love the extra power and cooler amp.

Hi, if you don't mind me asking, I am actually considering these 2 options for my 5.1 setup and would like to ask, does the Hypex NC502 make an audible difference having all that much power? Did you have the impression that the Marantz was not enough? If I may ask, which speakers do you use and how big is your space?
Cheers

 

[alvigg]

I love the weight of the class D amps. Buckeye makes good ones. I cut 80% of the weight when switching and sounded better than my older ATI's.

 

[exm]

Hi, if you don't mind me asking, I am actually considering these 2 options for my 5.1 setup and would like to ask, does the Hypex NC502 make an audible difference having all that much power? Did you have the impression that the Marantz was not enough? If I may ask, which speakers do you use and how big is your space?
Cheers

I'm using these for my heights, so it's hard to say they sound different. I'm using an ATI Class AB amp for my floor speakers.

 

[Oddball]

Hi, if you don't mind me asking, I am actually considering these 2 options for my 5.1 setup and would like to ask, does the Hypex NC502 make an audible difference having all that much power? Did you have the impression that the Marantz was not enough? If I may ask, which speakers do you use and how big is your space?
Cheers

Pending responses, you should also tell us what your setup is and why any concerns about the power? In most cases, AVR is actually good to do the job, but then, there are the oddball cases...