Marantz AV20 13.4 Channel AVP Discussion

[masterhw]

May/June 2025 sees the launch of the Marantz AV 20 and AMP 20 home theatre separates.
Full specs to be released (will update upon availability). Both units seem to approximately match the AV 10/AMP 10 but at a reduced channel count.
They will launch at $5,500 $6000 USD each.
Also named in the launch webinar are the previously rumoured AV 30 and AMP 30.

Interesting seeing ASR directly acknowledged. Claimed AV 20 SINAD of 110 dB!

 

[TheAVInsider]

Cool. I'll see you back here in 1 hour then.

 

[chelgrian]

I will be surprised if this product ever launches, Massimo still have not found a buyer for Sound United and since most of their products are made in Asia the Company is much less attractive now it is not economically viable to import the products in to the US.

 

[TheAVInsider]

$6500 per, not $5500
A10 and AMP10 getting the same kind of increase.

 

[Vacceo]

Just out of curiosity, do you guys know if there are u rack adapters for it?

 

[masterhw]

Just out of curiosity, do you guys know if there are u rack adapters for it?

the training webinar lists the AV20 as using the Cinema 30's rack mount kit (RMK-C30(5U)) but the AMP20 has a new one (given the placeholder RMK-XXX).

 

[masterhw]

side note: I hadn't realized the AMP 10/20 are Class D based, and claimed to be an in-house design*. The wording around this section is actually a little tricky and they make clear the amplifier board is their own optimization and assembly, but I wonder what the actual IC is.
I know Marantz has used a Purifi-derived design for the flagship Model 10 amplifier, and (allegedly) the Axign AX5689 for the M1 streaming amp. So they've debuted some class D implementations over the past year - but encouraging to me that they're building some of their own expertise on this too. This is what I would hope to see if the AVR units are to ever end up class D.

 

[Vacceo]

side note: I hadn't realized the AMP 10/20 are Class D based, and claimed to be an in-house design*. The wording around this section is actually a little tricky and they make clear the amplifier board is their own optimization and assembly, but I wonder what the actual IC is.
I know Marantz has used a Purifi-derived design for the flagship Model 10 amplifier, and (allegedly) the Axign AX5689 for the M1 streaming amp. So they've debuted some class D implementations over the past year - but encouraging to me that they're building some of their own expertise on this too. This is what I would hope to see if the AVR units are to ever end up class D.

MacIntosh has released their latest AVR with Hypex amps. It is perfectly possible, so chances are Marantz may follow.

 

[welwynnick]

side note: I hadn't realized the AMP 10/20 are Class D based, and claimed to be an in-house design*. The wording around this section is actually a little tricky and they make clear the amplifier board is their own optimization and assembly, but I wonder what the actual IC is.
I know Marantz has used a Purifi-derived design for the flagship Model 10 amplifier, and (allegedly) the Axign AX5689 for the M1 streaming amp. So they've debuted some class D implementations over the past year - but encouraging to me that they're building some of their own expertise on this too. This is what I would hope to see if the AVR units are to ever end up class D.

The power amp modules appear to be based on Marantz's implementation of the ICE Edge A400A2, though they haven't dropped in actual ICEPower modules themselves.

 

[Oddball]

side note: I hadn't realized the AMP 10/20 are Class D based, and claimed to be an in-house design*. The wording around this section is actually a little tricky and they make clear the amplifier board is their own optimization and assembly, but I wonder what the actual IC is.
I know Marantz has used a Purifi-derived design for the flagship Model 10 amplifier, and (allegedly) the Axign AX5689 for the M1 streaming amp. So they've debuted some class D implementations over the past year - but encouraging to me that they're building some of their own expertise on this too. This is what I would hope to see if the AVR units are to ever end up class D.

It would be great if D&M would finally switch to D class for their AVRs. Hopefully this was a good exercise for them to gain more experience how to implement it and definitively innovation that moves things forward.

 

[TheAVInsider]

 

[Jost Buergi]

Considering all the rumours about D&M in the past months it’s fantastic that there will be an AV20 and, even better, it will get ART (I assume the other models as well).

 

[welwynnick]

Considering all the rumours about D&M in the past months it’s fantastic that there will be an AV20 and, even better, it will get ART (I assume the other models as well).

It could be that the AV20 is the first product to benefit from the learning curve from D & M's first attempt to integrate ART?
Maybe it has more DSP capability than the AV10 etc?

 

[pogo]

AV20 is now online

 

[alvigg]

Is the a price difference between DLBC and ART?

 

[Oddball]

It's also in Dirac store - but no ART as upgrade option (hopefully to come).

Marantz AV 20 – Dirac

DIRAC LIVE FOR Marantz AV 20 Get your license Your Marantz AV 20 comes with Dirac Live available, ready to bring out the full potential...

www.dirac.com

Like older Storm MK1 has:

StormAudio ISP Elite MK1 – Dirac

Available Licenses

www.dirac.com

Price should be $599 for a package of full bandwidth Dirac Live and bass control plus probably $299 for ART (if pricing would be same as for Storm).

 

[broncogr]

 

[alvigg]

FYI, they mention toward end of the year.

 

[darth]

FYI, they mention toward end of the year.

Does that translate to few years (or never?) for those of us who don't speak marantz?

 

[alvigg]

This seemed pretty definitive that it would be 2025.