That it has been conducted by two liars that do have strong commercial interests to "prove" there's a difference?So, what do we think about this test?
Duplicate Threads merged here. Thanks.@mmuetst , there is a discussion here;
Another guy on Youtube going to visit Danny down in texas....
Actually ... you are only paying $50 more than the normal version Funk w/ the V6 OpAmp + stand upgrade; and you get these for free: - Super Charger 5A power supply ($345) - Jay's mod including power supply circuit mod (MCPS) - special gold/black color schema So for those that are interested in a...www.audiosciencereview.com
JSmith
The only thing Blind about this test was the blindness towards adherence to Science. So many tells and no use of a neutral party makes the results tainted. Does anybody really expect that a person who makes a living selling expensive speaker wire is suddenly going to admit he can’t hear a difference?An accurate comparison NEVER involves hooking and unhooking portions of the setup, especially cables or interconnects. Instead, a switchbox is used, and switching is done instantly. This was drilled into my head over 20 years ago by professionals, and demonstrations proved it. Yet today, it's ignored. I can't help but think this is deliberate.
Not only that, but the comment, " ... I'm listening to a pretty short segment" is misleading. Selected samples that are very short in duration, switched quickly, provide the best conditions for people to accurately assess whether there are differences between the two samples. That's true for hearing, and as far as I know it's true for sight.
The more I watch Danny, the more I'm becoming convinced that he knows exactly what he's doing ....... and I don't mean that in a good way.
Jim
If you as a commercial company do such a test to prove your product works, and you fail to adhere to even the basics that such a test needs, you are either totally incompetent and/or failed to do the most basic research before constructing such a test and/or are not really interested in a genuine result. None of these options makes you look good.I don't think that they maliciously faked this test. I honestly think they aren't aware of the details of the test.
Of course, you can buy such a box. And otherwise, you can build one with little effort. If one is really interested in the science, one puts in the time and effort.But you can't simply buy such a device. I think you have to build one since there are very few people interested in it.
it's up to you to do the test properly. it does not take a lot of time or effort to research on how to do ABX. you can test the way you want, and you can make excuses for the lack of fund or time, but that only damages your credibility.I don't think that they maliciously faked this test. I honestly think they aren't aware of the details of the test. Of cause it would be ideal to have a remote switching device where the listener can instantly switch between both cables. But you can't simply buy such a device. I think you have to build one since there are very few people interested in it. My guess is that they try the best to make an accurate blind test and I liked the effort they put into it even if the test might not be correct. It puts blind test in the spotlight and that is one of the best things which can happen for good audio reviews.
Brilliant!A spoof on the Jay and Danny test
Do you have some names or links, I was once interested in buying one and I couldn't find anything useful.Of course, you can buy such a box.
Come on the company is a one man show and no multi million dollar business. If there weren't the plug in /out sounds it would be a good enough blind test. Of cause you can fake everything from giving hidden hints to even fake a whole video. It is completely destructive to assume fraud if there could be other explanations. They put in the effort to do a test and it wasn't perfect but better than most other hifi-tests. Yes there is most likely a somehow twisted frequency response or detection by the plug in /out sound. They did such a test which is a good start and if all calm down they even might do another test with a better methodology in the future.If you as a commercial company do such a test to prove your product works, and you fail to adhere to even the basics that such a test needs, you are either totally incompetent and/or failed to do the most basic research before constructing such a test and/or are not really interested in a genuine result. None of these options makes you look good.
Not at the moment, but I've seen these devices advertisedDo you have some names or links, I was once interested in buying one and I couldn't find anything useful.
PS Audio is not a on-man-show Thinking this is a Jay-only action is too narrow-minded.Come on the company is a one man show and no multi million dollar business
Hanlons razer:It is completely destructive to assume fraud if there could be other explanations.
Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
I don't think that they maliciously faked this test. I honestly think they aren't aware of the details of the test. Of cause it would be ideal to have a remote switching device where the listener can instantly switch between both cables. But you can't simply buy such a device. I think you have to build one since there are very few people interested in it. My guess is that they try the best to make an accurate blind test and I liked the effort they put into it even if the test might not be correct. It puts blind test in the spotlight and that is one of the best things which can happen for good audio reviews.
Agreed. Plenty of switchers. The Luxman just brings “audiophile credibility” (unit and remote are made in Japan, AC adapter isn’t). A criticism for subjectivists is that an ABX box deteriorates the sound quality so that subtle differences are lost. I got my used after buying something else used, and having it refunded because it broke.And there are others, depending on what you want to do and how you want to do it .....