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The EQ on the Pro Plus is actually pretty nice after 20 years without any tone controls or EQ on anything (blame that on Naim)! EQ make total sense given room nodes, etc and I find it adds quite a bit.
The EQ on the Wiims is brilliant IMHO. I wasn't knocking the EQ, just pointing out that without using any it would sound the same as the ADI-2.
 
I though that most people around here think that there wouldn't be an audible difference between the DAC in the Pro Plus and ore expensive DACs like the ADI-2 or many others?

now edited: corrected where I incorrectly swapped the model names in the first version.

I cannot perceive any audible difference between my Pro Plus DAC and expensive external DAC, which is no surprise really. I use the external DAC not because it sounds better, but because it provides balanced outputs, a superb headphone amp, a (bypassable) physical volume control and some extra inputs.

For my use case the pro plus would have been just as good as the pro plus, but I got the pro plus ex-demo from a dealer for the same price as a plus pro so it was an easy decision. I've thought a bit about the Ulltra but in the end decided a 3" display isn't good enough for my eyes and will be using a tablet instead.
 
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For my use case the plus would have been just as good as the pro, but I got the pro ex-demo from a dealer for the same price as a plus so it was an easy decision. I've thought a bit about the Ulltra but in the end decided a 3" display isn't good enough for my eyes and will be using a tablet instead.
Do you not mean the other way round - you got the Plus for the same price as the Pro? The Pro Plus is the more expensive of the two
 
This Wiim Ultra looks like what I’ve been hoping for for a long time.

A streamer with HDMI and phono inputs, with room correction software and a digital coax output and sub out to run on the front of my active Dynaudio XD20 speakers.

Perfect!
I agree it is really close! I was considering some standard DAC for my workstation setup driving my Genelec 8030c's, but this is a no brainer with the functionality it includes! Finally we are getting proper bass handling and EQ in one product and not another DAC.... FINALLY!

What come thoughts for my interests:
- Can it act as a usb DAC (e.g. connected to a PC), probably not looking at the blog post
- Can it be triggered on by signal on its inputs e.g. toshlink and auto-switch off when nothing is playing?
- XLR outputs would be great but not a deal breaker for me
 
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I agree it is really close! I was considering some standard DAC for my workstation setup driving my Genelec 8030c's, but this is a no brainer with the functionality it includes! Finally we are getting proper bass handling and EQ in one product and not another DAC.... FINALLY!

What come thoughts for my interests:
- Can it act as a usb DAC (e.g. connected to a PC), probably not looking at the blog post
No, just USB audio out and/or USB drive, not USB audio in.
- Can it be triggered on by signal on its inputs e.g. toshlink and auto-switch off when nothing is playing?

it’ll have auto-sensing of toslink and line-in like the earlier models currently have
- XLR outputs would be great but not a deal breaker for me
No XLR
 
No, just USB audio out and/or USB drive, not USB audio in.
Yes but yesterday, thinking about a solution to route the REW test signal through the Wiim Pro, I realized that I have an old asynchronous USB to S/PDIF converter collecting dust in a box. Another reason to miss more spdif inputs on Wiim products
 
Yes but yesterday, thinking about a solution to route the REW test signal through the Wiim Pro, I realized that I have an old asynchronous USB to S/PDIF converter collecting dust in a box. Another reason to miss more spdif inputs on Wiim products

It seems like you have a good solution. Another option would be to playback the REW test tones from files.

I only run REW when I'm setting up or moving speakers, so the brief loss of one input doesn't seem like an issue, but maybe that is just me.
 
If you have a quality DAC the Wiim mini does everything you need for $90.
The features they are adding are really unneeded.
The Wiim amp is OK. But you can easily use a better quality amp with the Wiim mini.
The Wiim Pro Plus is nice but if you have a quality DAC like the RME ADI-2 you're still going to use it's loudness feature, balanced outs and such so you end up using the plus with optical out just like the mini. :)
The Wiim Ultra will give you a screen but those using Audirvana on MBP don't need it anyway...
Bottom line - New Wiim models raise price for solutions that can be done better with a separate DAC and amp. :cool:
The Wiim mini is the best value and actually all you need for streaming.

I have the Wiim Pro. In between the Mini and the Pro Plus. I quite like it. Especially with the ten-band PEQ firmware update. I run my TV through the Wiim via optical and use the Wiim DSP for Home Theater and for streaming. I connect it via optical to my Rotel integrated amp. I have a turntable and blueray/dvd/cd player also connected to the Rotel. I have considered upgrading to the Wiim Ultra with the phono input. I could use it as a preamp with DSP for all of my sources and just use the Rotel as a power amp. However, I don't really feel like its necessary. My current setup is pretty easy for my partner to use and operate and it looks pretty clean and organized which keeps her happy. And it sounds great. If I want perfect HiFi reproduction I will stream and use the Wiim PEQ. If I just want the joy of spinning vinyl, I bypass the Wiim for the Rotel's built-in phono input and analog stage. If I want to watch a Blueray then the signal goes to the TV via HDMI and then optical out to the Wiim for DSP and the then to the Rotel for amplification.
 
I heard on a Darko's preview that Room EQ on Wiim Ultra will be only avalaible for Apple users, 'cause of the huge variance in phone microphones for Android users. Is it confirmed?Would be a real disappointment for me
 
You could probably use a an external microphone? Not sure about this one though...

The big question is, for me at least, what will the sound quality be from the Ultra? On paper it looks great and I really hope it can deliver. A good power amplifier and you have a very nice system.
 
You could probably use a an external microphone? Not sure about this one though...

The big question is, for me at least, what will the sound quality be from the Ultra? On paper it looks great and I really hope it can deliver. A good power amplifier and you have a very nice system.
are waiting...
I see nothing "on paper" which would indicate that it would be "great" or even more interesting than the audio of the "plus"...
the chip was a little disappointed and the efforts around this one we don't knows nothing...(?)
the audio card of the plus was relatively expensive...
during the more global integration in the ultra, we can imagine an effort of rationalization...
we will see...
;-)



although the asr fashion mantra... "there will not be no difference, everything is perfectly transparent" and therefore... will not be better than the "plus" sound... cool..... (even if fashionable asr, has become a little schizophrenic no? hihihi)
;-)
 
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I heard on a Darko's preview that Room EQ on Wiim Ultra will be only avalaible for Apple users, 'cause of the huge variance in phone microphones for Android users. Is it confirmed?Would be a real disappointment for me
See here:
 
I heard on a Darko's preview that Room EQ on Wiim Ultra will be only avalaible for Apple users, 'cause of the huge variance in phone microphones for Android users. Is it confirmed?Would be a real disappointment for me
You will not be able to measure with an Android phone because those all have different microphones with different characteristics. However, room eq is still available in limited form, because nothing stops you from measuring the response with a Umik-1, and a computer with REW. Insert the REW filters in the Ultra and you are done. However, apparently the Ultra also allows you, or will allow you, to use an external usb c microphone. However, this is still to be confirmed as far as I know. MInd you, this is neither Dirac nor MSO, but a lot better than nothing.
 
Thanks for the replies, hope they manage to at least allow for the use of external mics, or solutions like minidsp+ streamer would be a better choice, crippling the market for the Ultra as a complete package...
 
Thanks for the replies, hope they manage to at least allow for the use of external mics, or solutions like minidsp+ streamer would be a better choice, crippling the market for the Ultra as a complete package...

I am really thrilled with the 10 band PEQ. It is more than enough for my needs. But I already have a measurement mic and am comfortable with REW. A more automatic solution would be better for most probably.
 
Thanks for the replies, hope they manage to at least allow for the use of external mics, or solutions like minidsp+ streamer would be a better choice, crippling the market for the Ultra as a complete package...
MiniDSP + streamer is still a lot more expensive and still does not offer automated room correction unless you go for Dirac.
Wiim have said they are going to add support for USB-C mics in the near future and as it is you can still measure with REW and external mic and apply the EQ manually.
I certainly don't think it will cripple it's market, by any means,
 
I wouldn’t even be considering the Wiim Ultra if it didn’t have room correction. Now I’m waiting for reviews to see if it’s anywhere near as good as Dirac live.

I’m hoping I can replace my Mac Mini running Dirac live with the Wiim Ultra, mainly so my wife doesn’t have to use the computer, but something a bit simpler to use.
 
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