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WiiM Ultra
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You need to take in the difference in exchange rates and perhaps import duty but more importantly VAT. In the USA I believe prices are quoted exclusive of local sales tax as that can vary state from state, whereas in the UK/EU prices generally (and by law in the U.K.) are displayed inclusive of VAT. The EU seem to have roughly an 8% uplift on the equivalent U.K. price after that which I can only guess is some additional tariff imposed by the EU. The pricing really shouldn’t come as a surprise if you compare previous models and say, Amazon devices which are similarly priced.
It’s still cheaper than comparable competition…
Yorkshire Mouth
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EXCELLENT NEWS!
As confirmed by WiiM earlier this morning.
If you have a DAC with balanced outs (and I'm going to guess most people eager for the Ultra to have balanced outs will already have such a DAC*), then you can take the digital out from the Ultra into that DAC, then used the balanced outs on the DAC to feed your amp.
Now we knew that already. But WiiM have confirmed that you can do this, using the external DAC for the main L&R speakers, whilst maintaining use of the Ultra's bass management and subwoofer output.
* If you don't have such a DAC, you can pick one up for c.£120. I know this isn't perfect, but it's a reasonable work around. Even then, you're only paying £450, which many people would think was a great price for the Ultra anyway.
As confirmed by WiiM earlier this morning.
If you have a DAC with balanced outs (and I'm going to guess most people eager for the Ultra to have balanced outs will already have such a DAC*), then you can take the digital out from the Ultra into that DAC, then used the balanced outs on the DAC to feed your amp.
Now we knew that already. But WiiM have confirmed that you can do this, using the external DAC for the main L&R speakers, whilst maintaining use of the Ultra's bass management and subwoofer output.
* If you don't have such a DAC, you can pick one up for c.£120. I know this isn't perfect, but it's a reasonable work around. Even then, you're only paying £450, which many people would think was a great price for the Ultra anyway.
Rather have balanced outs on the Wiim itself.
Keith
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Yorkshire Mouth
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Yes, and I don’t think anyone’s arguing otherwise.
Just noting that a very workable, potentially free workaround is available.
Well you have to buy a dac.
Keith
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If the Ultra's DAC is so good then why use an external DAC at all?
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Higher output voltage, balanced output without custom cables.
I need someone to sell these custom cables for the WiiM Ultra. I do not want to use an additional DAC. The Ultra's purpose is to get rid off all the different boxes we have.
Couldn't you just use standard RCA-XLR cables and build/purchase the custom cables if you have issues with ground loops?
For those who need more digital inputs, there is this automatic switch. It works a treat and was measured by RME who were very impressed: https://www.tindie.com/products/beni_skate/automatic-spdif-opticalrca-audio-switch/
That is what I will do. I already have the RCA-XLR cable to connect the Ultra to my Ncore NC252MP.
Yorkshire Mouth
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Sorry Keith, you must have been in a rush and missed it, I covered that.
I said:
Hope that helps.
Yorkshire Mouth
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If you want balanced outs.
You wouldn't be using it for the quality of the 2 DACs, you'd be using it as a way of adding balanced outs.
Where’s that from? Not seen that on any WiiM documentation
That's why I have doubts. It's from Audiophonics webpage but I can't find it anywhere else
They have a record of doing this - didn’t they do similar with the Amp or Pro Plus claiming it could do something it couldn’t? Pretty irresponsible imho
They said the line inputs on the Wiim Amp could be used as outputs to connect a separate power amp, IIRC.
tjf
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You guys realize these requests on ASR's "Wiim Ultra" forum for Balanced outputs is helping Wiim condition the market/"set-the-stage" (and ASR is a BIG driver of the market Wiim relies on!) for the "Ultra Plus" (or Ultra Pro?) with XLR outs (along with a higher grade DAC chip and a larger touchscreen) which should be ready for introduction on Wiim's site (and then the inevitable speculation threads/posts on ASR) by late '24...
I'm guessing it'll go for around $550 - $650 U.S.
This will be the device that goes directly after Eversolo!
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