Topping E30 II DAC Review

[Robbo99999]

Once again, if the order of inclusion is not provided, therefore, it is not mandatory.
And how you will be reinsured at the same time is your personal addiction.

You don't have to make a big deal out of it. Turn on your items in any order you want, or do it in the safest order, that's your call. (I have a Topping E30, the first generation, and it always remembers the volume - besides it doesn't matter because the highest output level can't fry anything anyway in my setup, so the order in which I turn on my gear doesn't make a difference.)

 

[Sokel]

"E30 II has built-in volume control function that
can adjust the volume from -99dB to OdB by
using the remote control, so you are able to
directly connect E30 II to power amplifier or
active speakers, and control the volume of
E30 || through remote control."

I'm glad you pointed out manufacturer's responsibility as long as it makes this statement.
It means that they are ready to compensate any damage up or down the chain if their device fail to follow their statement.
Don't they?

 

[fluxcapacitor]

If the e30 II works with a wide variety of coax & toslink sources (which the e30 DOESN'T) & this matters to you, I think you do. I am contemplating upgrading for exactly this reason.

i've been using e30ii for three weeks on optical connection, never had any drop out or such problem

 

[conuss]

I'm glad you pointed out manufacturer's responsibility as long as it makes this statement.
It means that they are ready to compensate any damage up or down the chain if their device fail to follow their statement.
Don't they?

To begin with, the manufacturer, WHICH IS SILENT!, should comment on the situation, then argue further. If he is going to keep silent, then he does not need the nuances of use, therefore, he is obliged to compensate for the damage.

 

[conuss]

You don't have to make a big deal out of it. Turn on your items in any order you want, or do it in the safest order, that's your call. (I have a Topping E30, the first generation, and it always remembers the volume - besides it doesn't matter because the highest output level can't fry anything anyway in my setup, so the order in which I turn on my gear doesn't make a difference.)

It was interesting to hear about the features of your setup).

 

[Robbo99999]

It was interesting to hear about the features of your setup).

Ha, ok!

 

[Sokel]

To begin with, the manufacturer, WHICH IS SILENT!, should comment on the situation, then argue further. If he is going to keep silent, then he does not need the nuances of use, therefore, he is obliged to compensate for the damage.

When he decide to answer then there's two more cases to look into to.
Meanwhile a little caution never harmed anyone.

Topping D70S fried my speakers...

Question for you: I'm putting a nearfield office system together. I have Genelec 8030c on order and I'm looking for an inexpensive dac ( was thinking topping d10 balanced). I'd like to avoid this thread's scenario. Any preference between getting a dac with pre-amp features (smsl do100, or...

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Topping D70S fried my speakers...

Question for you: I'm putting a nearfield office system together. I have Genelec 8030c on order and I'm looking for an inexpensive dac ( was thinking topping d10 balanced). I'd like to avoid this thread's scenario. Any preference between getting a dac with pre-amp features (smsl do100, or...

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[frki16]

as You guys sugested it would be better to pair e30 with something like cambridge 651w (used for 400€) measuring excelent than cxa81 (used for 1000€). i have elac debut 6.2 temporary hooked up to cambridge axa25

 

[chappi]

Have just got my E30ii set up and playing DSD files. Setup is Network NAS - Raspberry Pi 4 - Volumio - USB - E30ii in preamp mode - Paradigm Shift A2 active speakers. Also have an optical out from a Sonos Connect into the E30ii as well. There were issues with the DSD files initially which led me to do a factory reset on Volumio which I left at the default DSD settings. I wish I'd paid more attention to what changed but my impression is that changing the audio buffer from max (12MB) to default (2MB) was what fixed the problem. But the volume options in volumio also changed with the mixer type now showing as undefined. Its early days and I'll update if any issues with DSD.

So I'm happy enough - the E30ii fits the budget of our system but I'm confused about the auto on/off. This what I thought I was getting:

"All inputs support. Auto On/Off function: E30II auto On/Off function, it will automatically turn on and set to the input ! which the signal is valid. And when the signal of E30II's selection is not valid for 1 minute, E30II will turn off automatically. "

But there's no way that its turning off or on automatically regardless of what auto setting I choose - does anyone know if there's a setting to make this happen?

 

[hucifer]

I also used foobar2000 for 10 years, because it's convenient and you don't need to make special mental efforts to master something new ...
Moreover: on my laptop with office applications and audio and video editing programs, foobar2000 is still also installed.
But when I heard the sound from Linux OS, I had to "crunch my brains" and "strain the gyrus", mastering new knowledge.
And believe me - it was worth it!

Sorry but this is nonsense. I also run both Windows and Linux machines and there is no noticeable difference between ALSA running in exclusive mode and Foobar2000/WASAPI in exclusive mode.

Bit perfect playback is bit perfect playback.

 

[Gratefuldad]

@JohnYang1997 - did you consider USB C as input for the DAC? It makes life much simpler instead of using the thick B cable.

 

[fluxcapacitor]

one month of heavy e30 ii user here, zero issues i could find. no optical/coax input drop, no pre-amp malfunction etc....totally free of issues and sounds so sweet. Thanks Topping.

 

[conuss]

@JohnYang1997 - did you consider USB C as input for the DAC? It makes life much simpler instead of using the thick B cable.

Just buy a medium thickness USB-B and life will get better.

 

[Zek]

the thick B cable.

The thicker the better (cable).

 

[Gratefuldad]

The thicker the better (cable).

Please see here - its mostly the length of cable that matters - that too as @amirm said - he's magnified the difference a lot. On a desktop we are always trying to minimise cables abd thicker cables tend to be stiffer. My 2 Cents.

Do USB Audio Cables Make A Difference?

Aftermarket USB cables seem to be all the rage with people paying as much as $15,000 for a short run of it!!! Lots of subjective performance reports are out there but none back with any objective measurements that demonstrates any difference. On the other side of the fence many believe there...

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[Zek]

The thicker the better (cable).

Please see here -

Maybe it's a double meaning or a joke (smileys).

 

[Trell]

thx all for reply and advice for startup procedure, its good one!

You can also add a pair of passive attenuators to put between the DAC and the amplifier, and some of them have an adjustable attenuation. So full output from the DAC will not cause full output from the amplifier.

 

[hutt132]

Here are the included filters:
View attachment 220685

Using the default F2, we get this wideband distortion+noise vs frequency:

@amirm notes that filter F2 is default, however the manual that shipped with my E30 II states F-3 is the default filter and it was set to F-3 out of the box...

@JohnYang1997 Are the filters in Amirm's graph labeled incorrectly? This would indicate that the default F-3 (Short Delay Sharp Roll-off ) corresponds do the slow green line in the graph.

 

[shawnbd]

Dear Amirm, Would you share the photo of detail your Samsung USB charger, so I can find one.

 

[cola]

Maybe interesting for E30II users. I'm using the E30II only in DAC mode and only with my cd player via coax cable. I noticed 1-3 dropouts per cd - that is not fine for me. I asked the service at Topping for new firmware - but there is no newer official version - but the service said sometimes the jitter from source is too high - if so there is no workaround. Because my players are ok i tried another thing. My first smartphone usb power supply was to small for the E30II I connected a chinese goobay power supply with 1.5A - thats works but with this dropouts.
So I replaced on monday this thing with an Apple USB power supply - and since then - no more drop- out on coax. Apple photos attached.
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