Topping Centaurus R2R DAC Review

[oleg87]

Its a pleasure to meet you as well. You sure there is not something else you are addicted to?

There are countless audio communities where reality-untethered subjective blathering is all you can read, and no one here is interested in ASR becoming another one of these places. If you think a set of measurements hasn't captured some kind of audible problem, we'd love to know, but uncontrolled listening impressions are not interesting or valuable evidence of anything except that the person offering them as such hasn't done much controlled critical listening in their life.

 

[DVinylfan]

Great! Enjoy your digression.

Heads up: Combative and unhelpful posts are a shortcut to deleted Member status here; politely suggest you refrain

 

[westsail42]

Heads up: Combative and unhelpful posts are a shortcut to deleted Member status here; politely suggest you refrain

just me? edit: thanks for the tip!

 

[VientoB]

just me? edit: thanks for the tip!

Well you didn't explain

 

[oleg87]

Given some of the posts in that thread, that Topping did the Centaurus with the Holo R2R module makes one wonder as to why. Esp if DS is supposed to be me so much better.

For the same reason they released a $1800 DAC with some homegrown architecture - they want to make money, audiophiles fetishize implementation details, and don't do meaningful tests for audibility.
And DS is not "better" in this case (except that Topping's implementation clearly has some problems, according to Goldensound's data) except on paper, as both designs clear audibility thresholds (at least in the modes that aren't bugged) for any kind of reasonable usage.

 

[westsail42]

And DS is not "better" in this case (except that Topping's implementation clearly has some problems, according to Goldensound's data) except on paper, as both designs clear audibility thresholds (at least in the modes that aren't bugged) for any kind of reasonable usage.

Not just me. Lots of thread (various) posters touting DS over R2R.

But yeah, unclear to the target market what with all the various DAC models they have. But sounds like you know it.

 

[antcollinet]

Just read through the thread that pre-dates this one on the Holo Spring 3

Measurements & Preview of Holo Audio Spring 3 DAC / wPreamp (Prototype)

Holo Audio's Spring series has not been updated for 3 years... Recently, even on ASR, there are rumors that Spring 3 will be released soon. Last year, Jeff stated in his QQ team that he would use May's module to develop Spring 3. It can be inferred that since May is ready, Spring 3 should be...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Given some of the posts in that thread, that Topping did the Centaurus with the Holo R2R module makes one wonder as to why. Esp if DS is supposed to be me so much better.

My Take:

Topping Centaurus R2R DAC Review

Does this have Holo's DSD converter as well?

audiosciencereview.com

 

[agnostic]

I think the reason people found them bright and shrill was they were used to vinyl which is less bright and has pleasing distortions. There wasn't much wrong with those early CD players I would argue. You'd need to listen to them now to know for sure, rather than go by what some people said 40 years ago.

The fact is many people prefer the stimulant sound, in particular for some pop music, and some so-called hi-fi recordings. This could be another reason why many people say vinyl sounds better or even more details.

 

[VientoB]

The fact is many people prefer the stimulant sound, in particular for some pop music, and some so-called hi-fi recordings. This could be another reason why many people say vinyl sounds better or even more details.

I dont think anybody says vinyl is more detailed.