Apart from your "extra peace of mind", can you explain to me the positive and/or negative effect of adding an upsampler, without any other DSP purposes ?
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Ending the Windows Audio Quality Debate
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If your audio player outputs a stream at the same sample rate your soundcard/DAC is running at, the resampler in the Windows audio stack is being bypassed since it obviously has nothing to do. Resampling quality is then determined by whatever happens in the player instead, and I know that the SoX resampler at "Best" quality is first-rate. Nothing more, nothing less.
As per the first post in this thread, even the resampler in the audio stack appears to be plenty decent enough these days, so this may be more audiophilia nervosa than strictly necessary.
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Woah, I just wanted to know if I should keep 100% volume on windows and control it through my dac (topping DX1) and somehow I ended up reading 37 pages of this discussion that lasted almost 4 years.
I noticed the red box in EAPO was blinking red at times meaning it was clipping? Adding -0.14 pre amp fixed it so far.
I noticed the red box in EAPO was blinking red at times meaning it was clipping? Adding -0.14 pre amp fixed it so far.
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66% of windows volume equals to -6,3db if I remember correctly
It will eliminate all possible distortion caused by windows mixers
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Right, what about if I'm using my laptop with the apple dongle (without exclusive mode) since it doesn't have a volume knob, same settings but I just use windows volume slider normally?
Yes
It will be fine
AnalogSteph
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Sound device volume is after CAudioLimiter AFAIK, so would not have any effect. Per-application sliders in the mixer should though.
thank you for correction
everything is really complicated here)
That's true in the case of hardware volume control. When software volume control is used, it takes place before CAudioLimiter. (To check if the volume control is in hardware or software, the easiest way is to see if it affects WASAPI Exclusive streams. If it does, it's hardware volume control; if it doesn't, it's software volume control.)
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I thought the 'easy'/straightforward way to avoid these issues was to install EQ APO and always use a few dB of negative preamp?
That would definitely work.
-30,2dbif my peak gain starts from 24.4 how much should I lower the gain?
I am using HeusVi with HRIR
why ? it lower my volume too much I won't be able to hear anything. if I volume up 66 now low gain from the DAC/AMP my ears will blow up because I will need 89 at least to hear the same if equalizer will stop working
All you need to do is use a negative preamp that covers off your max boost in the Total EQ Curve, and me personally I'd use an extra -2dB above that to account for intersample overs. So if a person for example had a max boost of their Total EQ Curve of 8dB, then I'd use a -10dB Negative Preamp.if my peak gain starts from 24.4 how much should I lower the gain?
I am using HeusVi with HRIR
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so i'm still confused... what is the configuration most people agree on?
- should the -4db pre-amp setting be set in E-APO or not?
- should E-APO be used to disable the original APOs or not?
- or should E-APO not be used at all and, instead, the sound enhancements be disabled in the windows sounds settings?
- if the latter: what about the -4db thing? Should a different solution than E_APO be used for that or what?
- how about the registry setting for Caudiolimiter? I've changed to being disabled. Is this still a good practice?
- i do have lots of items in the "renderer" subfolder in the registry, so i'd really be interested to definitely have this stuff disabled..
- which windows sample rate setting do you recommend for a more general use like youtube, netflix etc.?
I guess it makes sense to just make a sum-up of the current state of things. Reading this threat got me more and more confused..
so i'm still confused... what is the configuration most people agree on?
- should the -4db pre-amp setting be set in E-APO or not?
- should E-APO be used to disable the original APOs or not?
- or should E-APO not be used at all and, instead, the sound enhancements be disabled in the windows sounds settings?
- if the latter: what about the -4db thing? Should a different solution than E_APO be used for that or what?
- how about the registry setting for Caudiolimiter? I've changed to being disabled. Is this still a good practice?
- i do have lots of items in the "renderer" subfolder in the registry, so i'd really be interested to definitely have this stuff disabled..
- which windows sample rate setting do you recommend for a more general use like youtube, netflix etc.?
I guess it makes sense to just make a sum-up of the current state of things. Reading this threat got me more and more confused..
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Hi all I have a question- with my current set up comprising a Windows 11 Laptop with Windows system audio and EqualizerAPO>Motu M2 audio interface with its own volume knob>3e A5 amplifier also with its own knob & a knob bypass switch>JBL A170 passive speakers, how would you maximize the SINAD from said set up? Should I max out everything and adjust volume by the amplifier, or do the same but adjust from the Motu, or same again but adjust from Windows/EqualizerAPO, or try to strike a balance by adjusting 2/3 or 3/3 of the above?
that's what I want to know too, it reduces the volume too much, do we really need to go this low?
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