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ASR recommendations for lottery winners.

1.618:1 is a rather awkward shape for a listening room. It is too long in one dimension.

And besides, Toole thoroughly debunked it in his book.
Yes I agree. My post was entirely tongue-in-cheek.

My key requirement would be for the nice tall ceiling and no smaller than 6m in width or length.
 
I would first buy a better and bigger house where acoustics are as important as structural strentgh and so and where i have a room that is acoustic good for music listening and is big enough. It should also be very remote in nature with no neighbours in sight. And i would retire first if possible with the ammount i win.

Next on my list would be a more practical car than i have now. That could in a lot of cases be a Toyota Landcruiser or similar, not a porche or lambo or bugatti or so...

If I got money left, i probally start building speakers myself with it, A kippel would be great in that and probally my biggest cost. Amps and dsp are not that expensive anymore, but would be purifi or Ncore and minidsp or similar dsp's (that preferable can also double as high end dac and preamp). I won't spend 10K on electronics in total i think... if i would be limited to existing speakers, i probally look at bigger JBL (if i got the space for it) or Neumann speakers. Cardioid would be nice, but what is out there is not doing what i want yet (high volume/headroom and full range cardioid to 20Hz). Kii is not fit for high volume, neighter is D&D 8C or similar availeble now.

But i'll do also a full tube vinyl setup higher end than i got now, coloured like hell but nice to listen. Speakers would probally also be diy and vintage inspired. But this is only very low on my list of wanted with that money, and only when i have so much left it won't matter financialy. That system will never be my main system, but it's something I love for certain circumstances and would be nice to have (not must have).
 
Even if I won $100 million I feel like I'd still scoff at the idea of paying $75k for a preamp.
I doubt I would buy one or two, but it was the setup for the next question — what can we find that is truly a demonstration of what can be done as opposed to what should be done, in this case, maybe the argument is that it costs $74.5k to go from 121 to 125 dB A weighted SNR.

There’s another way to look at it. Imagine going to Bruno Putzeys and saying, “hey, you know how you can parallel DACs to lower noise? Can you parallel HypeX or PuriFi modules?” and then you’d learn about the Marantz bridged NC500OEMs. “I just won the lottery, can you design me the best amp module you can? I’m not worried about the cost — just make it the best.” And Bruno would say: “I could, but I just don’t have time with my day job.” And that’s when you say: “well, how about I pay you a year’s salary to do it?”

They probably sell a handful of these preamps and what you are really paying are the salaries of the engineers.

Expensive cables? Snake oil that takes advantage of people with money.

Ultra performance gear? The people with money are essential patrons of the arts, in this case, the art of audio engineering.

When something like this preamp comes out, it now challenges the ordinary mass market companies like Topping to try to match that performance for less…



  • Option 1
    • PC with lots of SSD, RAM running foobar
    • SMSL DO300
    • Neumann KH420
    • Amazon Basics cables
    • divert some of the budget toward a sportscar
I like the KH420 but if you saw my initial post, assume you already got all the other stuff like cars.

The KH420 wouldn’t qualify as best at any cost.
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At 106 dB at one meter, it already is clipping the tweeter and bass is rolling off around 50 Hz. Once you get to the >6m listening distance, it drops and drops. I would disqualify based upon inability to go down to 20 Hz.

  • Option 2
    • Eversolo DMP-A10
    • Genelec 8381A
    • Branded cables from Mogami/Belden
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The Genelec is rated to the higher listening distances than the KH420, but even then it’s rolling off before it his 20 Hz. It is phase linear to 300 Hz
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But something like the Meyer Sound Bluehorn has similar frequency response flatness but is phase linear to at least 25 Hz.
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  • Option 3
    • dCS Varese
    • Accuphase C3900
    • Accuphase A300 x2
    • Magico M9

It’s very likely that the Magico’s are good based upon other products
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But don’t forget that a pair of M9 loudspeakers requires two stereo or four monaural amplifiers.

But is the Varase actually the system to go? Presumably you are better off with Accuphase SACD player going into the DG-68 for room tuning, or even a Sony UHD BD player going into Trinnov via HDMI-PCM conversion and then using the Trinnov’s AES digital out into a stack of those 28-bit DACs coming out for each of the two channels.
 
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How about this? If I won the lottery, I would buy my own APX555 and Klippel, start a forum called "Audio Pseudoscience Review" and go into competition with Amir! Rather than trying to find the best stuff like he does (so boring!!!) I try to find the worst measuring equipment ever. It should be great for a few giggles! ;)
 
If you have an average room let say 70 max 90 Cubic meters a Dutch & Dutch combined with a Topping D90 III is basicly an Endgame set for pure digital reproduction. Cost 15.000,-.
 
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If I won big in the lottery? Since I'm very satisfied with everything I have, I'd bank/invest it all and live quite comfortably off the interest and dividends from the principal.
 
Me with $1B USD:

"I can't spend it, because then I won't be a billionaire anymore. I'd better save up another billion before I start buying stuff, just in case."
 
I doubt I would buy one or two, but it was the setup for the next question — what can we find that is truly a demonstration of what can be done as opposed to what should be done, in this case, maybe the argument is that it costs $74.5k to go from 121 to 125 dB A weighted SNR.

There’s another way to look at it. Imagine going to Bruno Putzeys and saying, “hey, you know how you can parallel DACs to lower noise? Can you parallel HypeX or PuriFi modules?” and then you’d learn about the Marantz bridged NC500OEMs. “I just won the lottery, can you design me the best amp module you can? I’m not worried about the cost — just make it the best.” And Bruno would say: “I could, but I just don’t have time with my day job.” And that’s when you say: “well, how about I pay you a year’s salary to do it?”

They probably sell a handful of these preamps and what you are really paying are the salaries of the engineers.

Expensive cables? Snake oil that takes advantage of people with money.

Ultra performance gear? The people with money are essential patrons of the arts, in this case, the art of audio engineering.

When something like this preamp comes out, it now challenges the ordinary mass market companies like Topping to try to match that performance for less…




I like the KH420 but if you saw my initial post, assume you already got all the other stuff like cars.

The KH420 wouldn’t qualify as best at any cost.
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At 106 dB at one meter, it already is clipping the tweeter and bass is rolling off around 50 Hz. Once you get to the >6m listening distance, it drops and drops. I would disqualify based upon inability to go down to 20 Hz.


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The Genelec is rated to the higher listening distances than the KH420, but even then it’s rolling off before it his 20 Hz. It is phase linear to 300 Hz
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But something like the Meyer Sound Bluehorn has similar frequency response flatness but is phase linear to at least 25 Hz.
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It’s very likely that the Magico’s are good based upon other products
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But don’t forget that a pair of M9 loudspeakers requires two stereo or four monaural amplifiers.

But is the Varase actually the system to go? Presumably you are better off with Accuphase SACD player going into the DG-68 for room tuning, or even a Sony UHD BD player going into Trinnov via HDMI-PCM conversion and then using the Trinnov’s AES digital out into a stack of those 28-bit DACs coming out for each of the two channels.

Personally I probably wanted to go fairly directly to enjoying the sound of the new gear and locale (hence Soulution plus Magico as a non-budget constrained shortcut) which isn't quite in the spirit of your OP (which really wants to absolutely maximise all measurable metrics).

So yes, I would have to have my people look into all that. I expect I'd read their reports (on the comfy Euro trains while travelling between concerts and performances, and inevitable meetings with world leaders to keep that poverty and sustainability and world peace thing on track). :)
 
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The way the question is stated it seems there is one correct answer. Perhaps it's Amir's AP or the left-most DAC. I give in. What is it?

I don't think I'd spend much time listening to an Audio Precision box. Aren't the fans noisy?
 
I'd buy the worlds largest island or biggest I could afford. :cool:
 
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Me with $1B USD:

"I can't spend it, because then I won't be a billionaire anymore. I'd better save up another billion before I start buying stuff, just in case."

I also like the way you think. :)
 
I don't think I'd spend much time listening to an Audio Precision box. Aren't the fans noisy?
The fans at a Rangers v. Celtic match are noisy too.

But the question wasn't what you might want or would listen to. It's what audio product measures best regardless of audibility or price. Odd question. Very odd.
 
A woodshop and a Klippel
 
The fans at a Rangers v. Celtic match are noisy too.

But the question wasn't what you might want or would listen to. It's what audio product measures best regardless of audibility or price. Odd question. Very odd.

I like the OP's (futile but worthy) proposition that we discuss the state of the art sans tedious argumentum ad lazarum.
 
I would build a Hidley room home theater with massaging chairs and a home chef. I would like to try some ATC monitors. A beach house and apartments in several cities would be nice. Add many concert subscriptions.
 
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