ASR recommendations for lottery winners.

[Kal Rubinson]

“hey, you know how you can parallel DACs to lower noise? Can you parallel HypeX or PuriFi modules?”

Sure, he can. Already done.

 

[GXAlan]

Sure, he can. Already done.

What I meant to say is doing stuff like Octo-balancing them like DACs.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

What I meant to say is doing stuff like Octo-balancing them like DACs.

OT: Unnecessary.

 

[MattHooper]

Since they haven’t been measured, I’m just going to conveniently assume they measure great

I would likely hide away the amplifiers.

And even with lottery money, I would not be inclined to support the cable industry racket, so I’d either try basic competent cables and hide cables as I do now, or perhaps pay just enough so that the cables themselves aren’t ugly.

And I would do lots of entertaining! It would be really fun to have a system like this to blow the minds of guests.

 

[GXAlan]

OT: Unnecessary.

Only as unnecessary as that Soulution 727? A regular McIntosh amp is great but that doesn’t stop people from wanting the quad balanced models.

My understanding is that every time you average two signals, you reduce noise by the square root of 2. So using something like imaging sensors as an example you can see how there are diminishing returns.

Maybe I can present it a different way. The Soulution can deliver 125 dB SNR. What would it take for an amp to deliver that at 1W to 1000W, understanding that at 1W, you would be delivering less than 125 dB of audio.

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Since they haven’t been measured, I’m just going to conveniently assume they measure great

The MBL amps have been measured at Stereophile and are pretty impressive!

MBL Reference 9011 monoblock amplifier

As large as a small file cabinet and weighing 223 lbs, MBL's most powerful amplifier, the Reference 9011, is a tour de force of electronics design and implementation that will set you back $60,000 if you're a stereo enthusiast, or $120,000 if you like pure balanced mono.

www.stereophile.com

“This amplifier has true 20-bit dynamic range.”

 

[MattHooper]

Only as unnecessary as that Soulution 727? A regular McIntosh amp is great but that doesn’t stop people from wanting the quad balanced models.

My understanding is that every time you average two signals, you reduce noise by the square root of 2. So using something like imaging sensors as an example you can see how there are diminishing returns.

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Maybe I can present it a different way. The Soulution can deliver 125 dB SNR. What would it take for an amp to deliver that at 1W to 1000W, understanding that at 1W, you would be delivering less than 125 dB of audio.



The MBL amps have been measured at Stereophile and are pretty impressive!

MBL Reference 9011 monoblock amplifier

As large as a small file cabinet and weighing 223 lbs, MBL's most powerful amplifier, the Reference 9011, is a tour de force of electronics design and implementation that will set you back $60,000 if you're a stereo enthusiast, or $120,000 if you like pure balanced mono.

www.stereophile.com

“This amplifier has true 20-bit dynamic range.”

Yep, I’m aware that the MBL amplifiers measure well. One even technically dethroned a Benchmark product as I recall.

It’s a fascinating company.

 

[J.M. Noble]

I have a ManAttic

Same. 140" front projection is not out of proportion in this 22x24' barn.

If I won the lottery, I'd go see a lot more live music and sit in the primo seats for a change.

 

[Snarfie]

Same. 140" front projection is not out of proportion in this 22x24' barn.

If I won the lottery, I'd go see a lot more live music and sit in the primo seats for a change.

Just 7x4 meters because of sadle roof just around 55 cubic meters. Also reflection are odd needed badly DSP an some room treatment. Even de Vandies model 1 sounded better than the model 2.

 

[dedobot]

Patek Philippe minute repeater -$500k and ME Geithain 2x801K+2x14K -$50k

 

[007Shorty]

Maybe I would buy the Elrod House from the James Bond movie Diamonds are Forever. A listening room with a view.

 

[Galliardist]

With a huge sum of money, sure I'd buy a house with a library for my wife and a dedicated home theatre room, set up for surround and Atmos music, probably with inexpensive but usable gear. I'd do something with my existing stereo of course...
I would spend a lot more on going to concerts, supporting talented young musicians and good teachers, and campaign for the return of musical education in more schools. It seems to me that if I am doing music as a thing, that's much more important than sitting in front of a pair of million dollar speakers for a few hours a day.

 

[Mikig]

if I won the lottery, I would have to ask you, since I don't understand anything about it, good headphones that I can use on airplanes, since I would be dedicating myself to traveling around the world indefinitely…..

 

[GXAlan]

I would spend a lot more on going to concerts, supporting talented young musicians and good teachers, and campaign for the return of musical education in more schools. It seems to me that if I am doing music as a thing, that's much more important than sitting in front of a pair of million dollar speakers for a few hours a day.

Everyone seems to skip the fine print in the first post about all the other stuff that the money was already spent on

"… and used the money to create a startup that solved world hunger and delivered world peace, donated a ton to charity, helped your friends and family and community, and did all the stuff people on the internet said you should do instead of spending money on audio. You have had all your experiences, hired musicians to play in your own home, etc."

I'm just impressed that a $75K pre-amp actually delivers something that represents "cost-no-object" engineering from the standpoint of measured distortion/noise.

 

[Monte]

I would hire someone to find all the concerts I would like to hear, get tickets for the best seats with backstage access. and arrange transportation, hotels, restaurant reservations. Probably rent an interesting car in interesting places when I don't feel like being chauffeured. Also fit in music lessons between concerts and probably language lessons too. I would keep my LG V20 with oversized aftermarket battery, dongle dacs and iems and be very happy. Don't envision any big house purchase, or even needing the present home. A simple life. I hope the money lasts.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

Only as unnecessary as that Soulution 727? A regular McIntosh amp is great but that doesn’t stop people from wanting the quad balanced models.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Martin]

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Since they haven’t been measured, I’m just going to conveniently assume they measure great

I would likely hide away the amplifiers.

And even with lottery money, I would not be inclined to support the cable industry racket, so I’d either try basic competent cables and hide cables as I do now, or perhaps pay just enough so that the cables themselves aren’t ugly.

And I would do lots of entertaining! It would be really fun to have a system like this to blow the minds of guests.

MBL rooms are very popular at every audio show I have ever attended. They sound amazing.

Martin

 

[GXAlan]

Draw your own conclusions.

Oh, I don’t think Soulution even thinks their performance is necessary. It’s just bragging rights.

I am all Class D active speakers with a 90 dB SINAD Altitude32 even though I have 16 channels of AES digital out if I wanted better measured performance. I even run through triple ADCs for my vinyl.

LP12 -> Luxman tube phono for the compressor effect -> Parks Puffin ADC/DAC in line level for magic-> Trinnov ADC/DAC for room EQ -> Meyer Sound ADC/DAC since they are analog only.

 

[J.M. Noble]

Just 7x4 meters because of sadle roof just around 55 cubic meters. Also reflection are odd needed badly DSP an some room treatment. Even de Vandies model 1 sounded better than the model 2.

We all have struggles. I just calculated 118m^3 for my room, not including the volume above the suspended ceiling, but I've had issues getting the bass to sound right.

After running the room mode calculations, it turns out there is no reasonable combination of speaker placement and listening position that will fix this. This is actually a blessing in disguise because I am much less inclined to chase "upgrades": whatever incremental gains I might hope for over an already nice system are likely to be lost in the room, so why fight it?

As for the OP: if I won the lottery and was required to spend a hundred grand of it on home hi-fi (which I consider obscene), I'd probably spend $80k+ of it on the room and the remainder on, say, a pair of Dynaudio Focus 50 powered speakers and a selection of phono cartridges to play with.

 

[Snarfie]

We all have struggles. I just calculated 118m^3 for my room, not including the volume above the suspended ceiling, but I've had issues getting the bass to sound right.

After running the room mode calculations, it turns out there is no reasonable combination of speaker placement and listening position that will fix this. This is actually a blessing in disguise because I am much less inclined to chase "upgrades": whatever incremental gains I might hope for over an already nice system are likely to be lost in the room, so why fight it?

As for the OP: if I won the lottery and was required to spend a hundred grand of it on home hi-fi (which I consider obscene), I'd probably spend $80k+ of it on the room and the remainder on, say, a pair of Dynaudio Focus 50 powered speakers and a selection of phono cartridges to play with.

The average investment in a professional studio controll room is around 30:70 30% gear 70% room treatment. Don't forget that all vibrations outside like a variety of trafic has to be elimated don't know if that too is in the 70%. Than reflections/reverb time are dealt with. Guess what our average room sounds like in comparison.
DSP can not solve everything but a lot compared to new gear.

By the way in my living room also around 118 cubic meters a Bose Wave music system III is doing a great job.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

Octo Research Dac 8 Pro
PC with Multichannel Dirac DLBC
Dutch & Dutch 8C's with sub of choice
OR
Kii Three with Bxt Modules
OR
Kef Blades powered by Purifi Eigentact Amplfier and Sub of Choice

Probably all three one in each of my homes, maybe more if I feel I need more than one place on the same continent.