Thunder22
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Buy 2 and save $99. Buy 3 and save $198.On Outlaws website, if you buy two monoblocks, they give you a whopping 200$ off/ 99$ savings each. Bringing down the price to 699$ for two monoblocks.
EDIT: ~200 (198)
Buy 2 and save $99. Buy 3 and save $198.On Outlaws website, if you buy two monoblocks, they give you a whopping 200$ off/ 99$ savings each. Bringing down the price to 699$ for two monoblocks.
EDIT: ~200 (198)
And buy 3 is what I did.Buy 2 and save $99. Buy 3 and save $198.
Finally we can examine performance at different frequencies:
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Some strange distortion mechanism sets in at highest frequencies but only during a limited power range (hump in green). Fortunately you hardly ever have content at high frequencies at high amplitude so not an audible concern.
My brother-in-law had a pair of M200's that sounded good at low levels, but we found a bit harsh when pushed. I suspected that the rail switch could be the source.
These are new models and likely have improvements.
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Could the unexpected rise in distortion at low power be the rail switch?
- Rich
Did the 2200 also show the same high frequency, high power distortion rise?My brother-in-law had a pair of M200's that sounded good at low levels, but we found a bit harsh when pushed. I suspected that the rail switch could be the source.
These are new models and likely have improvements.
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Could the unexpected rise in distortion at low power be the rail switch?
- Rich
And so buy 7? Not sure what that would work out to be, and you’d probably want a few dedicated outlets for your set up...but for a seven channel home theater for the few of us old school class A/B beast hold outs, it would be hard to beat. I’ve always liked Outlaw as an internet company. I believe one of the first and still going. Basic, no frills amps with solid spec.Buy 2 and save $99. Buy 3 and save $198.
One is certainly prettier, if that matter. It does to me.2 of these or 1 Schiit Vidar?
Did the 2200 also show the same high frequency, high power distortion rise?
Mine too.Amir did not do that particular test (freq vs output) so I don't know the answer. If I were to guess, I would say yes as by all indications the two are of the same design.
It is regrettable that the switch on and off is done from the back ...
Yes I know there is a trigger, but my RME ADI for example, does not have one.
At my advanced age I cannot hear even 10 kHz, hearing aids in or not.I wonder how long it takes for the rails to settle after switching? If longer than the sweep's dwell time, that large spike might go down after a short time. However, this highlights one of the big issues with class G, what happens during the transition. That said, while it looks ugly, in reality 100+ W at >10 kHz will probably be inaudible because (a) we are less sensitive that high, (b) it is very unlikely any real source would require full-power output that high, and (c) if it was required, most likely any tweeter fed 100+ W would be destroyed, leading to no distortion (or anything else) being heard.
The 32-tone test is very clean...Yea but you can have a big low-frequency component with a small high-frequency component riding on it.
I guess that's why its called harmonic distortion. Unfortunately no sexual overtones allowed.Yea but you can have a big low-frequency component with a small high-frequency component riding on it.
I don't see anything on the IMD measurement tho so I won't be concerned.
BTW when it says 10kHz or 15kHz, remember that the distortion components would be at least the second harmonic or higher so we are talking 20kHz and up.
It may be transitory, I do not know. Switching upsets the bias and such so there may be a brief blip. In any event, while interesting and hurtful on the THD sweep, it would have little practical impact IMO.At my advanced age I cannot hear even 10 kHz, hearing aids in or not.
Now for a joke: If the high frequency distortion spike is typical of Class G designs, the class could be rated NG (not good) as at high frequencies it runs off the rails. A true high frequency train wreck!
THD+N is usually the one being measuredI guess that's why its called harmonic distortion. Unfortunately no sexual overtones allowed.
The multi-tone @ 5 watts tells us nothing because the artifact occurs at a higher power level.Yea but you can have a big low-frequency component with a small high-frequency component riding on it.
I don't see anything on the IMD measurement tho so I won't be concerned.
BTW when it says 10kHz or 15kHz, the distortion components would be at least the second harmonic or higher so we are talking 20kHz and up.