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morillon
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should be the case as on the "amp" ( just one sub output)
holbob
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I think you're probably underestimating what a bargain the wiim amp actually is. The ultra looks like an incredible bargain for the price (£350). Check out the SMSL and Topping prices. Both devices are bargains (amp and ultra).
JeremyFife
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Completely agree!
Yorkshire Mouth
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There’s no perhaps about it, it has a phono stage, which they’ve confirmed will be mm and mc.
The DAC will be better too, apparently.
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Both MM and MC? For some reason I thought MM only.
Does anyone know if it's a simple analog phono stage or if they are doing the phono equalization in the digital domain like the Waxwing?
Does anyone know if it's a simple analog phono stage or if they are doing the phono equalization in the digital domain like the Waxwing?
Yorkshire Mouth
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Sorry, dunno.
tjf
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Ok, my guesses about the Ultra:
U.S / $ Price: $450 to $600
DAC: AKM 4499/4191 flagship (to compete with Eversolo DMP-A8) -- DAC cost comparisons to Wiim Amp DAC won't work here, as Wiim uses the old ESS 9018 DAC in the Amp...
USB Type A port for: USB Input for playback of USB drive content -- AND -- USB audio output to external DAC (yeah, I know - why would you need this...)
PEQ - 10 band w/rudimentary room correction (interested to see if Wiim implements greater than 12db boost/cut AND if they add LPF/HPF to the EQ??)
Miniature 3.5" Touchscreen -- strictly a marketing concession to Eversolo's success, rather than any improved functionality -- could be wrong here....
Then....Get ready for the Ultra Pro....say $600 - $700 U.S. with balanced outputs, better headphone amp built-in, and bigger touchscreen -- a TOTAL admission of going after Eversolo's place in the market!!!!!!
U.S / $ Price: $450 to $600
DAC: AKM 4499/4191 flagship (to compete with Eversolo DMP-A8) -- DAC cost comparisons to Wiim Amp DAC won't work here, as Wiim uses the old ESS 9018 DAC in the Amp...
USB Type A port for: USB Input for playback of USB drive content -- AND -- USB audio output to external DAC (yeah, I know - why would you need this...)
PEQ - 10 band w/rudimentary room correction (interested to see if Wiim implements greater than 12db boost/cut AND if they add LPF/HPF to the EQ??)
Miniature 3.5" Touchscreen -- strictly a marketing concession to Eversolo's success, rather than any improved functionality -- could be wrong here....
Then....Get ready for the Ultra Pro....say $600 - $700 U.S. with balanced outputs, better headphone amp built-in, and bigger touchscreen -- a TOTAL admission of going after Eversolo's place in the market!!!!!!
I was curious too but, like morillon said, if they didn't in the wiim amp I doubt they do it in the Ultra. It is not something that can be done via firmware I guess. You need to route a different filter to each output, the LP to the sub out and the HP to the mains out. It's a pity, the Ultra could have benne a serious contender of the MiniDSP
tjf
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Sorry, wasn't clear on my request for the PEQ features, rather than HPF/LPF for the "bass mgmt/subwoofer xover" function, I meant a "global" High Pass/Low Pass" function for the PEQ itself -- not the bass mgmt function, which I assume would be separate from the DSP/PEQ processing, as the mono subwoofer output would need it's own DAC stage in addition to the DACs for the main L/R outputs...
Currently the PEQ that Wiim uses has "Peak" and LS (Low Shelf) and HS (High Shelf) which aren't ideal for mimicking a HPF/LPF filter function in the "Global" PEQ -- especially with the 12db boost/cut limitation...
I am still irritated about the (possibility) of no eARC on the Wiim Ultra. Prefer running the streaming services of the device rather than the TV although many will point out that there is little or no impact on sound quality (I assume). Why is there such a hesitance to go eARC when so many of the prerequisities are in place on so many devices, especially companies that have the platforms in place/in use?
staticV3
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Specifically eARC, or HDMI ARC in general?
Because the WiiM Ultra will almost certainly have an HDMI ARC input.
That they omitted eARC makes sense to me, since the Ultra is firmly a Stereo device.
Streamers (or concretely WiiM ones) bring the intact file to a DAC when connected by USB or resample them?
Not concern by hi-res audio as CD quality is enough for me but I slightly dislike resampling weather is audible or not (a little psychological issue
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Not concern by hi-res audio as CD quality is enough for me but I slightly dislike resampling weather is audible or not (a little psychological issue
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WiiM streamers support bit-perfect file transfer.
Yes, ditto. I'm currently running a separate external DAC from a pro+ primarily to get balanced outputs and a good headphone amp although it's otherwise no better than the Wiim's internal DAC.
You can't connect a dac to a wiim streamer using usb. USB is only for playing audio files from a mass storage.
Are you sure? I thought that was mentioned it will be a usb output
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