WiiM Ultra

[Parky]

Just ordered a Wiim Ultra on the Black Friday deal! I'm stoked.

Been wanting to try a decent spec'd streamer/preamp/eq. box since I saw the Minidsp SHD. While I like many features of the SHD, I couldn't turn down the price of this box to try out a dedicated 2 channel setup. Wish it had balanced outputs and had crossover capability to to drive L+R subwoofers in stereo, But I'm converting from single ended processor line outs anyway and currently have mono sub out. Going to be fun to play with and see if I think I hear any difference* between it and my current worst rated (on this site) NAD T753 in stereo mode.
*Pretty sure I will hear a difference. The Wiim should allow me to directly input the exact PEQ filters my speaker manufacturer recommends. That will be fun to do in itself to see how different my speakers sound. Never been able to try that with the NAD.

If you want dual subwoofer out, you would bypass the wiim dac. I am thinking of doing this by uusingwiim ultra coaxial to my zd3 then using the balance outs to two fosi za3s and then use each of their sub outs. Or send it to an av receiver with dual sub outs. Here also from svs some useful info

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7362253119356439850

. I also think iifyou do dual sub out one needs to be in opposite phase of the other subwoofer. I am enjoying my ultra just wish you could control the whole system from the screen. I would the 12v trigger out if you did it this way you could use a 12v trigger from wiim to zd3 to dual za3 in mono mode. The 12 trigger do save a lot of time turng on and of devices.

 

[Digitaltrader]

The Ultra's HDMI port does not do output so it couldn't be displaying anything on the TV. I haven't watched Darko's video yet, but he was either using a Tidal app on the TV or casting to it from a tablet and then outputting through the Wiim.

For those looking for a way to watch and control the WiiM Ultra (or any WiiM) on the big screen TV, since the Ultra HDMI is not out, here's another idea. An Android TV box with the WiiM app loaded. You wouldn't want to use the audio outputs of the box, but will be able to see "Now Playing" on your TV. Add a wireless mouse and you now have control as well. Another hardware purchase, yes, but you can get one for less than $30. I'd double check that the WiiM app works with the Android version of the box first though.

 

[uofmtiger]

For those looking for a way to watch and control the WiiM Ultra (or any WiiM) on the big screen TV, since the Ultra HDMI is not out, here's another idea. An Android TV box with the WiiM app loaded. You wouldn't want to use the audio outputs of the box, but will be able to see "Now Playing" on your TV. Add a wireless mouse and you now have control as well. Another hardware purchase, yes, but you can get one for less than $30. I'd double check that the WiiM app works with the Android version of the box first though.

Do you have an example of one that would work out of the box? I have a Shield, but it uses the Android TV store and the Wiim app isn't included the latest time I checked. There may be a way to side load, but I would rather just have something work out of the box.

Right now, I have a small PC that I have connected to the TV and use an app called RemoteMouse for iOS to get the Wiim Album art to display while I listen to the Wiim Pro in the living room. In my office, I have an iPad connected to a TV that will show the artwork on the TV for the Wiim Ultra (when I am in the mood to have the TV on - the iPad and Ultra can display the artwork, which is usually enough, but I like the option.)

 

[Digitaltrader]

Mine is a TransSpeed 6K, but I really think any generic Android TV box would do the trick. The two or three I've had in the past all show up in Google Play when I pick an app to install.

 

[uofmtiger]

Mine is a TransSpeed 6K, but I really think any generic Android TV box would do the trick. The two or three I've had in the past all show up in Google Play when I pick an app to install.
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Thanks, I will grab one after the holidays. I don't want to deal with a return given the current lines at this point, if it doesn't work. The computer solution is okay, but I would think an AndroidTV running Wiim would be easier.

 

[darth]

Under $1000?
Could be $999 lol

it would 100% be $999 if the company themselves say "under $1000"

Indeed, lol

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[Piotr]

I recently started using the Wiim Ultra (picked it up on Black Friday—great deal!). I’ve got it hooked up to my old Marantz 603, and the difference is noticeable—the Marantz DAC is pretty terrible in comparison. Now I’m waiting on the A5 from 3e Audio. In hindsight, I probably should’ve gone with the Wiim Amp Pro, but I figured this setup would offer more flexibility, power, and fun (though also some extra hassle, since the auto power on/off won't be as seamless in this setup).

The display is great, and the whole family, including my wife—likes it.

A few questions:

• Is it worth enabling the de-noise option for ARC/Optical?
• Does changing the DAC filter make any difference? I can’t hear much of a change.
• I ran auto-correction, and everyone in the family agreed the sound improved. It made me wonder: should I invest in a sub? The bass and sub-bass were noticeably boosted.
• PEQ mode: L/R or Stereo?

 

[Paffi]

I tried to verify how the automatic sub time alignment works. I´ve postet it here, If anyone is interested: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...utomatic-time-alignment-of-the-sub-out.59647/

 

[Doublej]

Probably, in answer to the question should I invest in a sub.

 

[Paffi]

I just read that in the roadmap for the ultra for the 15th of January 2025:

"Wireless Dolby 5.1 (Beta): Low-latency wireless Dolby 5.1 with surround channels. "

WTF that sounds awesome. Does anybody know more about?

 

[Yorkshire Mouth]

I just read that in the roadmap for the ultra for the 15th of January 2025:

"Wireless Dolby 5.1 (Beta): Low-latency wireless Dolby 5.1 with surround channels. "

WTF that sounds awesome. Does anybody know more about?

Just that I've heard this - it's involve a 2nd WiiM (Mini, whatever) and an amp for the rears.

The Ultra would strip out the front 3 LCR channels, place the centre equally in the L&R, and send the rears to the Mini, in the same way you can link your Mini to your Ultra over wi-fi and have it playing the same thing.

It sounds so devilishly simple and obvious, you have to wonder why it hasn't been done already.

 

[Paffi]

Just that I've heard this - it's involve a 2nd WiiM (Mini, whatever) and Amp for the rears.

The Ultra would strip out the front 3 LCR channels, place the centre equally in the L&R, and send the rears to the Mini, in the same way you can link your Mini to your Ultra over wi-fi and have it playing the same thing.

It sounds so devilishly simple and obvious, you have to wonder why it hasn't been done already.

That would be great for me, as I already have an WIIM Pro and active rears - then I may be able to sell my atmos preav and only use the WIIM Ultra.

 

[JaccoW]

Time to get a move on with all those multichannel SACD albums I have ripped.

 

[MT_bassbone]

This is a really dumb question but I am considering buying a Cambridge Audio CXA61 and want to know if the trigger from the Ultra would turn the CXA61 on. Anyone have this setup or have any experiences?

 

[MGJ]

This is a really dumb question but I am considering buying a Cambridge Audio CXA61 and want to know if the trigger from the Ultra would turn the CXA61 on. Anyone have this setup or have any experiences?

It seems the CXA61 has both IN and OUT triggers. So the Ultra should be able to turn it on from standby.

 

[Good Vibes]

This is a really dumb question but I am considering buying a Cambridge Audio CXA61 and want to know if the trigger from the Ultra would turn the CXA61 on. Anyone have this setup or have any experiences?

Hi

I have the CXA 81 and recently purchased the ultra, yes the trigger will switch the amp on and off accordingly when using 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable. I have my Ultra connected to the TV which means I now only need the TV remote to activate the TV, Ultra & Amp. Obviously, you need the app or the WiiM remote to access other features but the convenience of being able to use one remote is great.

 

[Good Vibes]

I just realised, you haven’t yet bought the CXA 61. Now I have the functionality of the Ultra, I am planning on selling my CXA 81 and very possibly buying a highly regarded Hypex Ncore amp from Nord Acoustics. Maybe something for you to consider too, I think it would be in the same price region as the 61.

 

[early rejecter]

It sounds so devilishly simple and obvious, you have to wonder why it hasn't been done already.

It has been, in a sense — this is essentially what the Sonos Amp does, paired with either a second Sonos Amp or two wireless Sonos speakers for the rear surrounds — for several hundred $ more than Wiim of course.

(Or did you mean why hasn’t it been done by Wiim themselves already?)

 

[Yorkshire Mouth]

It has been, in a sense — this is essentially what the Sonos Amp does, paired with either a second Sonos Amp or two wireless Sonos speakers for the rear surrounds — for several hundred $ more than Wiim of course.

(Or did you mean why hasn’t it been done by Wiim themselves already?)

You were right first time, and yes I'd thought about Sonos.

I think what I mean is that it should be comparatively easy to add wireless rears. But you usually end up being tied to proprietary systems, often tied into the manufacturers own speakers/amplification.

I'm not sure why AV manufacturers haven't offered wireless modules.

 

[Soniclife]

But you usually end up being tied to proprietary systems, often tied into the manufacturers own speakers/amplification.

Proprietary will be for audio sync control, and because who doesn't like hardware sales.

I'm intrigued by this, I've ignored surround up to this point, but I have spare speakers that could be played with.