WiiM Mini Streamer

[Smartplug]

Wiim support on this forum hasn’t address this issue. I wish they could inform us that they working on a fix. Have someone report this on wiim app?

 

[Music1969]

Wiim support on this forum hasn’t address this issue.

They have setup their own forum. Expect less activity from them here.

Best is to report via app (raise support ticket) but second best is going to their own forum:

WiiM

Community Forums for WiiM devices.

wiim.community.forum

 

[Merifon]

but second best is going to their own forum:

i put a post on their forum:

After last FW upgrade, Wiim seems to be no more bit perfect.

I would like to point out that some users refer that bit perfect reproduction via toslink verification tests on RME ADI-2 and other gears, is lost. Deviations are especially for anything over 44.1/16. Can someone verify and provide? Bit perfectness was the main reason to use wiim... thanks in...

wiim.community.forum

 

[W@P]

So i have an issue. And i am pulling my hair out. Whenever there comes a song on that has MQA my Ifi Zen One Signature DAC jumps between formats and the music stutters. I have tried different optical cables. The one cable would give me a white noise when i select 192kHz and 24bit playback on the test sound. Changed the cable to the Wiim-supplied one and that one plays the 192/24bit test song fine.

Right so i have set my playback to all possible options and it still does the same.

WTF is up? What else can i try?

 

[onlyoneme]

So i have an issue. And i am pulling my hair out. Whenever there comes a song on that has MQA my Ifi Zen One Signature DAC jumps between formats and the music stutters. I have tried different optical cables. The one cable would give me a white noise when i select 192kHz and 24bit playback on the test sound. Changed the cable to the Wiim-supplied one and that one plays the 192/24bit test song fine.

Right so i have set my playback to all possible options and it still does the same.

WTF is up? What else can i try?

Your DAC seems to be MQA decoder. Unfortunately current WiiM firmware is buggy and probably cannot deliver the MQA stream unaltered to allow the decoder to unfold it. Maybe that's why it stutters.

 

[JimmyMac]

So i have an issue. And i am pulling my hair out. Whenever there comes a song on that has MQA my Ifi Zen One Signature DAC jumps between formats and the music stutters. I have tried different optical cables. The one cable would give me a white noise when i select 192kHz and 24bit playback on the test sound. Changed the cable to the Wiim-supplied one and that one plays the 192/24bit test song fine.

Right so i have set my playback to all possible options and it still does the same.

WTF is up? What else can i try?

I discovered this same problem trying to decode MQA streams on my Gustard X18 (which is MQA-capable on optical). I reported the problem to WiiM through the app. They then rolled back my firmware to the previous version (dated 20220922), and MQA is now working just fine, with no stuttering. You can probably have them do the same, and then you can stay on that version until the MQA problem is fixed on a future firmware.

 

[Merifon]

I know that the suggestion can be very powerful but now it seems to me slightly better listening to Tidal hi-fi if I use the bt of my DO100 set LDAC at 44.1 / 16, compared to using the wiim via toslink. In theory, this bt setting should almost allow unchanged CD quality.

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

A year from now, once the bugs have all been fixed, what WILL we talk about? Have a look at the Sonos forums to find out, lol.

 

[Brantome]

I know that the suggestion can be very powerful but now it seems to me slightly better listening to Tidal hi-fi if I use the bt of my DO100 set LDAC at 44.1 / 16, compared to using the wiim via toslink. In theory, this bt setting should almost allow unchanged CD quality.

“In theory”, it shouldn’t as Bluetooth is a lossy protocol while CD quality isn’t.

 

[Merifon]

“In theory”, it shouldn’t as Bluetooth is a lossy protocol while CD quality isn’t.

I read somewhere controversial articles related to LDAC and its 990kbps, when set to 44.1 16bit.
LDAC applies a proprietary compression that can be lossless at such parameters and someone believes can transport CD quality.
I never take in count, and hope Mr. Bitperfect would come back...

 

[keiron99]

I just got the WiiM today to stream from my Synology NAS to my Rotel integrated amp (with DAC built in), via optical.

However, I am finding the WiiM app painfully slow. Sometimes it takes a whole minute for a button to respond to open a folder or doesn't respond at all.

Is this a problem with my NAS? (DS 420j, with 700gb/30,000 ALAC files and which never struggles with anything else), or just a limitation of the WiiM and its app?

 

[Brantome]

I just got the WiiM today to stream from my Synology NAS to my Rotel integrated amp (with DAC built in), via optical.

However, I am finding the WiiM app painfully slow. Sometimes it takes a whole minute for a button to respond to open a folder or doesn't respond at all.

Is this a problem with my NAS? (DS 420j, with 700gb/30,000 ALAC files and which never struggles with anything else), or just a limitation of the WiiM and its app?

Are you using some upnp music server like Minimserver, Asset UPNP or similar? I use both and don’t have an issue playing music from my DS213j NAS.

 

[keiron99]

Are you using some upnp music server like Minimserver, Asset UPNP or similar? I use both and don’t have an issue playing music from my DS213j NAS.

Thanks for replying. I know I'm in the wrong place to say this, but I'm a novice with this. I really don't know what that means. I followed some instructions from Synology and downloaded the "media server" package and that's it. I don't know about the other things you refer to. (I did fear I would be in over my head with this stuff!)

 

[telemike]

Thanks for replying. I know I'm in the wrong place to say this, but I'm a novice with this. I really don't know what that means. I followed some instructions from Synology and downloaded the "media server" package and that's it. I don't know about the other things you refer to. (I did fear I would be in over my head with this stuff!)

Media Server - Synology Knowledge Center

Synology Knowledge Center offers comprehensive support, providing answers to frequently asked questions, troubleshooting steps, software tutorials, and all the technical documentation you may need.

kb.synology.com

Media Server - Add-on Packages | Synology Inc.

Media Server provides a multimedia service for you to browse and play the multimedia contents on Synology NAS via DLNA/UPnP home devices. With Media Server, you can easily connect those devices such as TV sets and stereo systems to your home network, and stream multimedia files stored on...

www.synology.com

 

[keiron99]

Thanks. I've done exactly as it says there - it's just painfully slow. Unusable in fact because it's so slow. (It works great apart from that!)

It has all the hallmarks of trying to use too big a file on an old underpowered computer.

 

[Brantome]

Thanks for replying. I know I'm in the wrong place to say this, but I'm a novice with this. I really don't know what that means. I followed some instructions from Synology and downloaded the "media server" package and that's it. I don't know about the other things you refer to. (I did fear I would be in over my head with this stuff!)

Been a while since I used Synology’s own media server, but I fired It up again and I have no problem with speed etc when using it from the WiiM app - it appears as Synology_Ds213j under Home Music Server, and when I choose that then Music, I can then browse by folder, artist, album etc with no slowness in response.

Given I first set it up a while ago, it probably had already indexed all my music files. On this page https://kb.synology.com/en-uk/DSM/help/MediaServer/application_mediaserver_desc?version=7 under the fourth bullet point on the right, have you gone into your NAS Control Panel (“Categorize multimedia files within the indexed folder to be browsed and played by the DMA devices within the local network. (Go to Control Panel > Indexing Service > Media Indexing > Indexed Folder)”) and ticked Music so that it indexes your collection? If you’ve only just set up the Media Server, perhaps you need to leave that indexing process running for a while then try browsing again thru the WiiM app.

 

[keiron99]

Thanks mate I'll give that a go.

 

[morillon]

I said etc etc
but... I checked.... for modest use...
distortion affects the analog output the same way.
at least, has the advantage of being clear....
forgot just the internet radio for me to.. that s dead... .

If others want to redo these measures I will be happy.
surprising that there is no more reaction or desire to investigate...
it's the listening, bad, that made me react...
I did what I could at my level...
measures and ticket to wiim..

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Well, this is embarrassing. Just checked again - somehow EQ had been enabled on my WiiM. Doh! Ran the RME tests again, all pass, up to 24/192. Sorry for my stupid mistake! Apologies to @WiiM Support

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Great respect for @amirm, who has to get all these settings right on equipment under test that he's not familiar with. So many settings, so many things that can dramatically affect the test outcome!