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MMM approach and a new calibration app (magic beans)
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My setup is a 7.2.4 system. Arendal 1723 for the lower channels, 1961 height's, Rythmik FV18’s . Emotiva XMC2 processor with Emotiva amps. My room is 21’ x 21’
Arendal 1723 Speaker Review
This is a review, listening test and measurements of the Arendal 1723 "Monitor" THX rated speaker. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $2,499 for a pair. This is one substantial "bookshelf" speaker! It weighs around 58 pounds. The cabinet simultaneously feels nice and rigid. The...
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What is interesting, is that you would expect a room correction that limited to the transition frequency only would result in “too bright” of a sounding speaker. With enough distance or an acoustically transparent screen, you might get the high frequency roll off at the listening position where it’s OK. I think here is where magic beans really highlights the benefit of full range correction. It will be able to figure out near field if there are areas that get reflected or emphasized in the regions of the audio above the transition frequency and then know what the room transfer function is to help correct the target.
What would be interesting is to compare how it would sound if you took the “Harman target” and then added the shelf filter that Amir recommended to tame down the high frequencies.
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Math audio for foobar (both for speakers and the headphone variation) is not demo,is completely free.
System-wide one is the payed one but it makes no sense if you only use foobar for playback.
I also have Arendal 1723 speakers in my system and they are slightly bright due to their directivity. Then you have to play a game of on-axis optimization or off-axis. MB chooses on-axis. I think it's the right choice.Arendal 1723 Speaker Review
This is a review, listening test and measurements of the Arendal 1723 "Monitor" THX rated speaker. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $2,499 for a pair. This is one substantial "bookshelf" speaker! It weighs around 58 pounds. The cabinet simultaneously feels nice and rigid. The...
What is interesting, is that You would expect a room correction that limited to the transition frequency only would result in toi bright of a sounding speaker. With enough distance or an acoustically transparent screen, you might get the high frequency roll off at the listening position where it’s OK. I think here is where magic beans really highlights the benefit of full range correction. It will be able to figure out near field if there are areas that get reflected or emphasize in the regions of the audio above the transition frequency and then know what the room transfer function is to help correct the target. What would be interesting is to compare how it would sound if you took the “Harman target” and then added the shelf filter that Amir recommended to tame down the high frequencies.
Here's a way to look at the spin data that I haven't seen many people do. It's a way of looking at the estimated in-room response after EQ'ing the on-axis or listening window response to flat. If you consider that in most cases, the ERDI is very similar to the predicted in-room response, you can invert the graph to see what would happen. You can do the same for the SPDI. Here's how it looks for the Arendal 1723 THX Monitor. I've drawn the line in red.
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I am referring to the paid version; not everyone wants to use FooBar (myself included).
Hi,
Probably ask already sorry.
For Denon MultiEQ-X is a must ? Or just the Mobile App do the work ? Ask because @OCA figured out how to create curves for each channel on .ADY format (it's on Github) and the mobile app does the distance/level stuff, A1 from @OCA too
so if you only need to tweak the .ADY with the curves generated by MB Denon's mobile app is much cheaper option.
Thanks
Probably ask already sorry.
For Denon MultiEQ-X is a must ? Or just the Mobile App do the work ? Ask because @OCA figured out how to create curves for each channel on .ADY format (it's on Github) and the mobile app does the distance/level stuff, A1 from @OCA too
so if you only need to tweak the .ADY with the curves generated by MB Denon's mobile app is much cheaper option.Thanks
I have watched a few more movies and have been really happy with the results from the target curves from Magic Beans. I am hearing more of the surround effects. I also purchased the Spatial audio disc which helped with levels. For someone at my knowledge level this was worth the price.
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I have a question. With this new app/method do you get a different room curve for each speaker or a unique room curve to apply to all speakers? Thanks. Stefano
Target curve for each speaker
We currently support MultEQ-X, but we’re working on an export method that will allow the use of the $20 Audyssey app without having to modify ADY files, but it’s inherently less precise. I am meeting with Sound United/Massimo this week to see what other approved methods we can use to directly import into the AVR with the highest possible precision and ease of use.Hi,
Probably ask already sorry.
For Denon MultiEQ-X is a must ? Or just the Mobile App do the work ? Ask because @OCA figured out how to create curves for each channel on .ADY format (it's on Github) and the mobile app does the distance/level stuff, A1 from @OCA too
Thanks
You need to divide the MLP by NF to see the RTF. What you see on the line at the bottom of the graph is what we consider the "in-room directivity" which is useful above the transition region. You can see that there's a bit of a directivity mismatch around 3.5kHz. Which speakers are these? I would be curious to see if there's Klippel NFS measurements of them to see how closely these in-room measurements align.
Thank you so much for your comments.
Just to be sure, this is 'L-RTF', the lower plot in the first picture:
'R RTF', the lower plot in the second picture, was done the same way:
Did I get this right?
These are AVI ADM9.1 speakers. I have no illusions about their directivity profile. It's just the speakers that I have at the moment, for which I wanted to try out the MB method to see if it could work for me.
There are no Klippel measurements available. The best thing I have is the last four graphs in this post, which indeed show some directivity issues around 3.5kHz, esp. at the port side of the speakers.
I have not created a correction based on this yet, but I'm planning to. Please let me know if there's anything I am still missing.
Wow. Ok. Send me your REW file if you want either here or privately. We can discuss.
MB can correct the on-axis response, but as you know, not the directivity, so how it will sound at your listening position will likely sound bright due to the directivity I see here. It's also important to know more about how reflective your room is and how far away you sit.
I find the bass suck out between 150Hz - 800Hz interesting. I assume that's related to the location of your main listening position and location of nearby boundaries.
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Hi all! I bought the pro version and am at a loss. I paid a lot of money. I did not receive instructions for use, I cannot install the program on my iPhone. I installed it only on Windows. As a result, my mood was greatly spoiled. I wrote to support, no response yet.
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I've just responded to you via email. There are step-by-step written and video instructions in the app. You mentioned that English isn't your native language, so I've sent you a step-by-step PDF. Can you use a translator for those instructions?
I see you've joined the owner's Discord group. I've translated some videos into Russian via AI. I'm not sure how well it translates, but hopefully that helps.
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