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Kef LS60 wireless review by ErinsAudioCorner
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Then just buy an LS50 meta.
What’s the point of getting an 8000 euro speaker that can’t even clear 96dB full range.
Are you really asking that or do you just want to express your opinion?
Like, are you really sitting there thinking "gee, no matter how hard I try, I just cannot figure out single reasonable explanation why a sane person would choose this speaker when it can't even clear 96dB full range"?
I got the data from Erin last week. Usually we have an excellent concordance between a Klippel NFS measurement and a Anechoic measurement (in this case from KEF).
There are 2dB almost 3dB differences around 400Hz that l cannot explain. Which one is correct is up to you for now.
Excellent speaker overall: I bought a pair and I am happy with them esp. in our very reverberant living room. I do not have SPL issue at 3m. The speaker is definitely power full enough for my usage.
I am a lot less happy with the app and the overall stability.
Also eARC is supported but there is no volume control or I am not able to make it work (manual says it should work) ... That's fine if you have an AVR but it does not work as expected if you want to connect your TV directly to the LS60.
I am now using a RME ADI 2 to do the volume control and I used some peqs to smooth the freq resp. I am waiting for KEF to implement it in the speaker directly, one can always dream. Side note: If you have a larger RME interface, they implemented a set of room correction features which is great.
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Are you sure about this? My LS50 Wireless II certain does volume with my TV over eARC, I thought that was part of the eARC standard. I'm seeing reports elsewhere online the LS60 does volume over eARC.
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Read that before, but what is the point?
Klippel measurement should be reliable enough, all the data is here now. Better test (klippel) another speaker.
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Same over here. On top of the TV remote, you can use th speaker's remote and the app volumen selector.
Yes, it works fine for mine.
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if the ls60 don't give loud enough spl why u suggest a worse speaker for the task
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Wow, Kef’s anechoic spin is remarkably close to Klippel NFS spin.
That’s gives me more confidence when looking at Kef’s published/posted spins.
That’s gives me more confidence when looking at Kef’s published/posted spins.
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Yes. And that pretty much always has been the case when Erin /Armir measured other KEF speakers as far as I remember. R3, R5.
if the ls60 don't give loud enough spl why u suggest a worse speaker for the task
If you highpass the ls50 at 150Hz it can definitely give 96dB.
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Quote Amir LS50Meta „…. Looks like distortion in from 200 Hz and up is excellent but down low, even at 86 dBSPL, we hit 100% THD. Unfortunately I don't have comparable measurements for LS50 as that was a long time ago before I standardized this way….“
Edit. See below. My bad.
Thread 'KEF LS50 Meta Review (Speaker)'
https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/kef-ls50-meta-review-speaker.25574/
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Yes, and if one DIY two tower subwoofers the same hight as ls50 with stands , one can cross even higher in frequency , maybe 200 Hz ?
Those two subwoofers could be standing near each L and R speaker on the inside .
Why havent anybody done that ? Every one seems to keep buying subwoofers thats supposed to be placed on the floor where you are limited to crossover at lower frequencies , such as 80 Hz .
Do you not understand what 'highpassing at 150Hz' means?
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what about the wide dip between 100Hz and 500Hz?
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Edit. My mistake see below.
You could have pointed it out with a bit less snark. But to each its own.
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@96dB it appears to reach 100% at 50hz. At 100hz it's still below 10%. So a 150hz crossover should support 96dB without crazy distortion.
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Did I interpret the blue line incorrectly? I thought it was THD 100%? If not, my bad indeed.
Yet 96 is still a way off to 106 of the LS60, to which it is allegedly equal when high passed.
