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Kef LS60 wireless review by ErinsAudioCorner

Well ‘pro’ guys tend to listen extremely quietly at around 73dB but typically at 1 metre , 85dB at your mlp is around the threshold to not incur long term hearing damage for extensive listening ( 8 hours ) I don’t believe there is a ‘correct’ volume .
Keith
 
Some sweeping curves, minimalist design bereft of useful indicators, legends and controls, along with a dreamy soft focus, neutral coloured brochure/marketing campaign containing one or more somewhat attractive women looking wistfully out the widow while holding their iPhone or reading a random healthfood magazine, half-sitting on a designer low-backed sofa, with a chocolate labrador at their feet and a cafe latte (in a white cup) on the side table.
And me thinking it was having the brand label "Sonos" on the speaker grill cloth! :facepalm:
 
beauty is always a matter of individual tastes.
Indeed. If you run the numbers (really) you will find that in a competitive market it's often better to create a design that some people love and lots of people hate, than one everyone finds boring but acceptable. I imagine KEF appreciates the "love it or hate it" principle. Some people like a speaker that looks like an orange juicer had a baby with a book, others would rather put a toilet in their living room. :)
 
In my crystal ball I see 90% of them put right on the corners of a room for their 95% of the time waiting for the spouses to be away for trips or shopping so they come forward for a while.
Get your crystal ball out of my living room you creep!
 
Technically the Preference Score is even higher than the Blade 1 Meta, their flagship (other than Muon that is).
Tonality: 7.5
Bass extension: 24Hz

Though Blade 1 Meta should be better suited for higher SPLs due to its 4 x 9" side woofers, for 7x the price. :)
I think this mostly shows that preference score is suggestive but not a truly conclusive metric on sound quality.
 
Have had these for 6 months and love them. They get exceptional in my room when using roon peq to adjust a few frequencies that cause issues in the room/due to placement which is what I use for 95% of my listening..
Would still like to have a peq option (per channel) built in to the app.
Only drawback is that there are no protection for the driver's but found a thin fabric to wrap around the speaker which looks okich....
But would be nice with something original in the box from kef.. ( if you don't have a sterile environment) = kids and animals...running around

As a solution replacing a lot of different units , cabling etc it's great, better than expected. I just use it for music from roon as mentioned, but on occasion airplay from the Apple TV for concerts or live performances.. Excellent sound , convenient and easy to use for anyone in the family and I like the looks..
and personally I don't understand the focus on SPL. I guess we all listen differently but I've never felt the need maxing out the volume. Or felt they are not loud enough... For daily listening and enjoyment I don't see the issue unless you have a huge space. I listen in a 60sqm room approx 3 meters from the speakers normally. But even 4 to 5 meters away (at the dinner table).. I have no issues to get them loud enough).
And if I ever have a disco at home I would have no issues to make sure no one can have any conversations and everyone can feel the bass.


Edit.. picture of the DIY protection solution.
 

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I always wonder what makes a speaker "lifestyle".

A lifestyle speaker is like a lifestyle business. The activities going on around the speaker/business may supersede the notional primary purpose of the speaker/business.
  • Slightly overpriced Mid-fi
  • Compact
  • High focus on industrial design
  • Convenience and design outweighs sound quality <-- the key
So IMO the LS60 has the convenience and looks and compactness to be considered "lifestyle" but it's far from mid-fi. We're looking at a speaker that's damn close to the #1 preference score.

Maybe it's more like the Hedy Lamarr of speakers. Pretty and talented to the point of it being blatantly unfair.
 
If I hadn't just scored a set of used 8Cs, I'm pretty sure I'd have bought a pair of LS60s when the price was reduced. "Lifestyle" does seem to be a veiled insult, but why should good sound have to be hard to access ? People are too proud of their over-complex "stacks" "in this hobby"
 
The mixing and matching, fretting over cable directionality, digital glare, isolation, PCM/DSD for many that is the hobby, it’s important to them that they have made a positive contribution to the sound, I am reminded of that old ready made cake mix that apparently wasn’t selling well because customers couldn’t or wouldn’t believe that it was complete as it was so they added an egg which then spoilt the recipe.
When the recipe was re-launched stating ‘just add an egg’ sales increased.
Keith
 
If I hadn't just scored a set of used 8Cs, I'm pretty sure I'd have bought a pair of LS60s when the price was reduced. "Lifestyle" does seem to be a veiled insult, but why should good sound have to be hard to access ? People are too proud of their over-complex "stacks" "in this hobby"
The mixing and matching, fretting over cable directionality, digital glare, isolation, PCM/DSD for many that is the hobby, it’s important to them that they have made a positive contribution to the sound, I am reminded of that old ready made cake mix that apparently wasn’t selling well because customers couldn’t or wouldn’t believe that it was complete as it was so they added an egg which then spoilt the recipe.
When the recipe was re-launched stating ‘just add an egg’ sales increased.
Keith
I think this is absolutely a strong current in the people who consider being an audiophile "a hobby". If it's too easy to get great sound, it diminishes the skill they believe they've cultivated in building (buying), evaluating, and listening to playback systems.

The fact that these "skills" are more often than not just baroquely cultivated delusions about things they've heard due to cognitive bias makes it even more tragic. They talk about having listened to expensive gear (including cables) the way others might talk about climbing big mountains or hiking challenging trails.

I won't deny that there are skills involved in getting a good listening setup at home even if you end up with an AIO setup like this. (reading measurements, judging acoustics for placement, making good measurements with a mic, setting up DSP yourself, etc.) It's just that being able to hear (imagine) the difference between two DACs isn't one of them.
 
I hope those are all passive, any competent active should protect itself from such abuse. PEQ and passive speakers is open to all sort of issues, and the manufacturers have no control over it, but in an active they have complete control to prevent damage, so it's the right environment to offer it.
Those pics are indeed of the passive LS50 - you can tell as the actives say Wireless (and one of the speakers has an IR sensor just below the driver). Preventing damage is definitely not a reason to not implement PEQ.
 
I think this is absolutely a strong current in the people who consider being an audiophile "a hobby". If it's too easy to get great sound, it diminishes the skill they believe they've cultivated in building (buying), evaluating, and listening to playback systems.

The fact that these "skills" are more often than not just baroquely cultivated delusions about things they've heard due to cognitive bias makes it even more tragic. They talk about having listened to expensive gear (including cables) the way others might talk about climbing big mountains or hiking challenging trails.

I won't deny that there are skills involved in getting a good listening setup at home even if you end up with an AIO setup like this. (reading measurements, judging acoustics for placement, making good measurements with a mic, setting up DSP yourself, etc.) It's just that being able to hear (imagine) the difference between two DACs isn't one of them.
Performant gear out of the box benefits US all. Better sales are the basis for further innovation and a larger market.
 
when I had a demo of these it was the top end that disappointed me, the rest was really impressive.

The top was too rolled off and undefined.

Seeing this review restores my confidence in that there seems to be no intrinsic issue if set up properly - although the demo I attended was by KEF themselves so you'd have thought they'd have made a better fist of it.

As for the looks, well, they look like loudspeakers. What would people want them to look like? Yes, there is the Blades but many people don't like how they look.
 
Erin's written conclusion:
See video linked above for subjective and objective analysis. I have provided a brief transcript below.


A very slim design that doesn’t call attention to itself. A subwoofer is not entirely necessary as the response of this speaker has an anechoic F3 of ~23Hz. Though, if one wants to add a subwoofer(s) then you can do so easily with the subwoofer outputs. Combined with providing a plethora of inputs from HDMI to wireless streaming, these factors make the LS60 a huge leap forward from typical “soundbar replacement” speakers.

Neutral speaker at any position. Though, aiming the speaker off-axis by 10-20° is recommended (as is the case with coincident/coaxial designs, in general). This smooths the HF diffraction ~9kHz which otherwise can sound like some top-end “shimmer/sparkle” is missing from instruments such as cymbals and shakers, etc. You do not have to sit in the perfect spot to get great tonality; you can be off axis by as much as 50° and still enjoy the same overall tonality (but not stereo imaging thanks to time/level differences, a problem with stereo listening itself).

The bass below 200Hz is slightly elevated which can result in a perceived bass bump in the listening position. I found this to be a bit too much when I had the speakers placed near the wall behind them. The KEF Connect app allowed me to resolve that by adjusting the “wall mode” to about -3dB and using the bass in “extended” mode which was a great compromise to get full 20Hz to 20kHz sound.

Output seems limited to about 96dB/1m (anechoic) for a single speaker. In my listening in my room at approximately 10 feet listening distance I found I was volume limited to 100-105dB (depending on source). This should be adequate for most but if you have a very large room with further seating distance than this you may find yourself wanting additional output. Or you may not. Use an SPL meter to determine your volume needs if this is a concern for you. You may find you don’t listen as loud as you think.

Overall the design allows for a truly full-range speaker that negates the need for a separate subwoofer (at sane output levels) and integrates into any living room without yelling “I’m a speaker, look at me!” the way many other options do. The overall floorspace these consume is less than that of most bookshelf speakers with stands; the latter rarely achieve response below 50Hz.
 
Erin has reviewed the Kef LS60 Wireless. :)

Video review:

Spinorama:
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The rest of the graphs:
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Erin's calculation:


Important Deal:
- Currently US $5000/pair (down from US $7000/pair) (or 28% off) until Dec 31, 2023.
- Currently EUR 5000/pair (down from EUR 7000/pair) (or 28% off) until Dec 31, 2023.


Written review:

Discuss!
Just shows how over priced they are seriously!
 
Can't wait to bottom these babies out with some ZZ top. Might have grandpa put some ACCA DACCA on to. Jokes aside, I think these would be perfect in my small European TV-room. I don't think the price is unreasonable, but it is a lot of money, especially if you live an ocean away from the nearest distributor. I hope Amir will be able to take them for a spin as well. We will have to give him one of these analogue robots for former office workers.
 
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