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If you are in US, send me whichever you buy to measure.
For Revel, would you be able to get the data direct from them?
If you are in US, send me whichever you buy to measure.
All the discussions on value for money etc are completely dependant on where you live.I agree with whom pointed out the big difference in msrp. KEF doubles Revel, and even if price is not always a solid indicator, I guess that comparison in unfair in this case.
Really? It just confirms how pointless it is making "international" recommendations of speakers then, both from a supply, service and value for money pov.Well, as much as what JBL does pisses me off too (I complained about it in another thread), KEFs site is worse. KEFs site just doesn't load if you are trying to access it from another country, just a blank page. At least with JBL it's clear what they are trying to do.
Really? It just confirms how pointless it is making "international" recommendations of speakers then, both from a supply, service and value for money pov.
Particularly since over half of the (declared on the poll) ASR members are not in the USA and a lot of people don't fill in where they are posting from in their signature.
It works for me when I use a VPN to say I'm in the US, are you sure it's not at your end?KEFs site just doesn't load if you are trying to access it from another country, just a blank page.
Where can I find some objective data about R11?If you get a dem at a Kef dealer do listen to the R11, it might be more slightly different than better or worse.
https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153Where can I find some objective data about R11?
For Revel, would you be able to get the data direct from them?
Yes, KEF Reference and Blades sound best when they have significant berth from the side walls. The manual suggests 3 meter distance from side walls
Most domestic environments dont have 30 foot wide spaces to play with with their speakers. I think in room you will find the Revel sounds better.
Seems like a good problem to have to me
Two separate questions on this one:
1. What is this on axis "dip" here on all three speakers, from 6khz-8khz? It's a different shape on the KEF but still somewhat there.
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I do see the listening window averages that dip out on all three but still curious.
2. One thing I'm looking for is a really detailed midbass. With this crossover info, would the Revel have a slight advantage, by carrying this in the dedicated midrange driver, instead of handing it off to bass drivers?
Revel F228Be - 260hz, 2.1khz
Reference 5 - 350hz, 2.8khz
R11 - 400hz, 2.9khz
Floyd Toole said:Listening window: a spatial average of the nine frequency responses in the +/-10 deg vertical and +/-30 deg horizontal angular range. This embraces those listeners who sit within a typical home theater audience, as well as those who disregard the normal rules when listening alone. Because it is a spatial average, this curve attenuates small fluctuations caused by acoustical interference, something far more offensive to the eye than to the ear, and reveals evidence of resonances, something the ear is very sensitive to: interference effects change with microphone position and are attenuated by the spatial averaging, whereas resonances tend to radiate similarly over large angular ranges and remain after averaging. Bumps in spatially averaged curves tend to be caused by resonances.
The dip is typically an effect of coherent, low-level diffraction by well-engineered waveguides.