captainbeefheart
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I wonder if he even knows there is an entire forum making fun of him, and this isn't a tiny forum either.
He does. He alluded to it in a new video about the new Klipsch RP-600M II speaker that he took apart.I wonder if he even knows there is an entire forum making fun of him, and this isn't a tiny forum either.
Someone changed the server to one that uses the wrong resistors and it is smearing the data.
oh, no! Someone let them touch the ground.It could be the cables as well. Everyone knows they make a huge difference. If you can't measure it, just trust me. I know.
(and yes, it's sarcasm )
I'd guess that he likes it. It energizes his fanbase and makes him someone to rally around for that side of the argument. And given that he sets the terms of the argument; it seems it is one he can never lose. He even flips it and calls the science based people "flat earthers".I wonder if he even knows there is an entire forum making fun of him, and this isn't a tiny forum either.
ASR has a reason to exist, but they have their issues as well.I think he is straddling a really unethical line. I don't understand this personality thing in Audio. I think this fundamentally is why ASR is important for people so they have a platform that is evidence based. It allows for open inquiry. That's so vital for people to grow and learn. That's my experience so far.
The explanations are thin, unless the product presents an annoying flaw. I view ASR more like a sorting hat. The panther grading system is just that.Everyone should purchase the equipment they enjoy even if it is poorly designed, ASR simply explains why the equipment sounds the way it does.
Keith
Dogmatism is the opposite of demonstrating that gear does not deliver on its promises.ASR has a reason to exist, but they have their issues as well.
I personally think that ASR is too dogmatic in putting so much importance on measurements and reaching a set target. ASR often hastily categorizes products as "junk" because they don't meet the expected measurements. So if you lean into ASR too much, you'll miss out on a lot of products and probably end up buying a pair of speakers you don't particularily enjoy because "they measure better". And you'll also be mocked for owning a tube amplifier or unorthodox speakers. Because measurements matter more than personal fulfillment on ASR.
As a subjectivist I seek to experience audio gear in person and form my own opinions. I prefer personanlized buying advice over recommendations based purely on 4 sets of measurements and a hastily done subjective listening test. Reviewers like Darko Audio spend months with a product before writing a review. ASR probably spends half a day reviewing a product.
I still think platforms like ASR should exist for the purpose of offering another perspective on the hobby and encourage manufacturers to make better products.
Because measurements matter more than personal fulfillment on ASR.
So if you lean into ASR too much, you'll miss out on a lot of products and probably end up buying a pair of speakers you don't particularily enjoy
Reviewers like Darko Audio spend months with a product before writing a review.
I prefer personanlized buying advice over recommendations based purely on 4 sets of measurements and a hastily done subjective listening test
Measurements tell you how a product is expected to perform in a given situation if you understand them. You say you want personalised advice, where do you get that? I didn't know Darko does house calls and sits down in your living room to offer you this "personalized" buying advice. Given the subjective nature of audio does his personalised advice change if you serve him coffee first?I prefer personanlized buying advice
I wonder how Darko would tame the bass on Cryptopsy's records.Measurements tell you how a product is expected to perform in a given situation if you understand them. You say you want personalised advice, where do you get that? I didn't know Darko does house calls and sits down in your living room to offer you this "personalized" buying advice. Given the subjective nature of audio does his personalised advice change if you serve him coffee first?
Please advise why you think that spending a long time with a product tells you anything about its sound quality?Reviewers like Darko Audio spend months with a product before writing a review.
Forget about Darko. I feel like the audiophile community (especially ASR) loves to talk about Hi-Fi equipment without even experiencing it. I just don't see the point of this hobby if all you do is look at graphs measuring speakers you'll never see or experience.Measurements tell you how a product is expected to perform in a given situation if you understand them. You say you want personalised advice, where do you get that? I didn't know Darko does house calls and sits down in your living room to offer you this "personalized" buying advice. Given the subjective nature of audio does his personalised advice change if you serve him coffee first?
Nonsense straw man argument that simply makes folks think you are here to bash ASR with zero real points to make.I feel like the audiophile community (especially ASR) loves to talk about Hi-Fi equipment without even experiencing it.
I'll cite two examples:Nonsense straw man argument that simply makes folks think you are here to bash ASR with zero real points to make.
I have test driven thousands of speakers and amps and stuff. I can determine if a speaker has good or bad sound within a few minutes. What is your problem that you can't?Reviewers like Darko Audio spend months with a product before writing a review. ASR probably spends half a day reviewing a product.
- LGK 2.0
You see lots not discussion. But it's obvious that nobody except the reviewer auditionned these speakers.