Genelec W371A + 8361A

[srrxr71]

That correct. I use 8361A + W371A and it's wonderful.

Again, about adding a subwoofer with this combo and as I wrote in the 8361 thread:

I was commenting about a nice picture of a setup presented on Genelec website. Of course, Genelec would like to sell more stuff, but they say themselves that you can't calibrate the W371A and a subwoofer using GLM.

Adding a non-calibrated subwoofer or any speaker would completely remove the benefits of the W371A ($$$) since GLM cannot analyse the subwoofer along the W371. The room null or bass resonance from the sub will pollute the room calibration with the W371A. And I can't believe the sub will add that much low frequencies. My W371 goes down around 20 dB @ -2 dB. Probably could add some SPL, but the W371A have more than enough (for my need I should say).

That’s what I thought. Has anyone tried? Sorry i’m lazy I should just wire it and try.

Anyway I do like the idea of “surround” bass and have 2 7360 around here. So my intent is to integrate those with Trinnov Nova.

Not for more bass but rather to have it come from more sides. Probably only under 60Hz so to not mess with the wonderful directivity of the w371 down to that frequency.

 

[srrxr71]

Genelec W371A + 8361A - just read some of the hype.
Anyone with first hand experience? Thx.

Are you in USA? PM me if we are in the same region you can experience them too.

 

[onion]

Do you feel adding the Bacch system made a significant difference? Thoughts on how things sound with and without Bacch in the loop?

Much less than compared to the Ones+multisub system. I prefer without for certain music. My friend who has 'golden ears' loved Bacch with the Ones+multisub but prefers without Bacch for Ones+W371a

 

[srrxr71]

Much less than compared to the Ones+multisub system. I prefer without for certain music. My friend who has 'golden ears' loved Bacch with the Ones+multisub but prefers without Bacch for Ones+W371a

Thank you. That’s a relief! Haha

 

[sarumbear]

I reverse-cringe everytime I read comments wondering this. It's a short google away to realize how extremely popular single house living is around the world. Older 200-300k multi-storey house like mine is completely normal purchase with a mortgage even for a single person (atleast with an IT job), you'll pay the same as you would spend on rent somewhere anyway.

I'm sure the dreaded WAF is much more of a stopper..

Unless your other half is a DJ…

 

[Esprit]

Older 200-300k multi-storey house like mine is completely normal purchase with a mortgage even for a single person (atleast with an IT job), you'll pay the same as you would spend on rent somewhere anyway.

Unfortunately I suck at English not to mention Finnish which I don't even know the word "hello" about.
Here, with €200,000, you can buy a 40m2 house.

 

[srrxr71]

Unfortunately I suck at English not to mention Finnish which I don't even know the word "hello" about.
Here, with €200,000, you can buy a 40m2 house.
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Worth every penny

 

[hvbias]

Are you in USA? PM me if we are in the same region you can experience them too.

A question for people that use W371a does it make the image larger into a full size speaker? This was my main issue with 8361a alone and I heard exactly what Amir did when he brought it up in the Youtube review of them.

 

[srrxr71]

A question for people that use W371a does it make the image larger into a full size speaker? This was my main issue with 8361a alone and I heard exactly what Amir did when he brought it up in the Youtube review of them.

So personally the first time I heard Genelec Ones was a pair of 8351 about 15+ feet apart.

There was a reason they didn’t play any bass heavy songs and focused on vocals as they didn’t have any sub hooked up.

Imho as far as throwing an image is concerned any of them can be very surprising in what they can throw.

The vocals filled the space incredibly.

Having the W371 certainly can’t hurt I suppose. It makes everything feel more real.

I have had some major gains after playing with the placement and angles. I’ve switched to horizontal placement

 

[jhenderson0107]

...does it make the image larger into a full size speaker?

In my opinion, yes it does. I currently use 8351+W371, migrated from 8361s.

 

[Pearljam5000]

A question for people that use W371a does it make the image larger into a full size speaker? This was my main issue with 8361a alone and I heard exactly what Amir did when he brought it up in the Youtube review of them.

Without it , they sound small ?

 

[srrxr71]

Without it , they sound small ?

I think it depends on what you play on them. I never felt even the 8341 felt “small”

However adding subs made them feel different. It really depends on what you’re used to I guess. Where you placed them relative to a wall. How close you sit to them and all those factors.

 

[Dgob]

Late to the party, and currently using a pair of 8361's with a stereo pair of the 7360's. Beautiful and detailed performance!

However, for detail, staging, imaging, dynamics, frequency extension and timbre, the combination of the 8361's and W371's is identified by Genelec themselves as the pinnacle of their Ones series (8381's not withstanding) and truly takes things to a level of realism that is nearly unbelievable. As soon as I can afford a pair of the W371's, I will be done with my monitoring quest. Just magical.

 

[holdingpants01]

There will be Genelec 8381 presented on the Audio-Video Show next month, not perfect environment but knowing how well the 83x1+W371A integrates with the room it should be pretty good and I'm curious to hear them, especially in the audiophile market context

 

[Dgob]

There will be Genelec 8381 presented on the Audio-Video Show next month, not perfect environment but knowing how well the 83x1+W371A integrates with the room it should be pretty good and I'm curious to hear them, especially in the audiophile market context

Yes, but not ever likely to be within my meagre budget (nor listening space!). I would definitely say that the sonic fullness of the 8361/W371 combo could easily fill a room of more than double the dimensions of my current space. Still, I suppose many of us can but dream....

 

[srrxr71]

Yes, but not ever likely to be within my meagre budget (nor listening space!). I would definitely say that the sonic fullness of the 8361/W371 combo could easily fill a room of more than double the dimensions of my current space. Still, I suppose many of us can but dream....

Yes they can fill a room no doubt but the still sound best within 2m.

 

[Dgob]

Yes they can fill a room no doubt but the still sound best within 2m.

I hear your view, but there are so many factors that can lead to your conclusion, that to make any argumentative response is liable to some bias.

I can say that I recently spent a joyous afternoon listening to that combo at the Genelec Experience Centre in London, and I was seated in various positions - from 2 - 4m away from them. In each and every one of those positions, music was unbelievably accurate and present. So I obviously have a different perception regarding listening distances, but that in no way denies your personal experience.

 

[Pearljam5000]

I hear your view, but there are so many factors that can lead to your conclusion, that to make any argumentative response is liable to some bias.

I can say that I recently spent a joyous afternoon listening to that combo at the Genelec Experience Centre in London, and I was seated in various positions - from 2 - 4m away from them. In each and every one of those positions, music was unbelievably accurate and present. So I obviously have a different perception regarding listening distances, but that in no way denies your personal experience.

Did you compare it to 8381 by any chance?

 

[srrxr71]

I hear your view, but there are so many factors that can lead to your conclusion, that to make any argumentative response is liable to some bias.

I can say that I spent a joyous afternoon listening to that combo at the Genelec Experience Centre in London, and I was seated in various positions - from 2 - 4m away from them. In each and every one of those positions, music was unbelievably accurate and present. So I obviously have a different perception regarding listening distances, but that in no way denies your personal experience.

It’s a great system. In fact when I first auditioned the 8351 I was seated about 4m away.

It blew me away and I have other posts describing that situation. They didn’t have subs so they played mostly slower low bass music. They still blew me away.

However when I got these home I realized that I listen at high levels. So I need to sit closer. Even though I have extensive room treatment but obviously not on the level Genelec would have excuted.

These near field monitors and that’s what they are just sound better closer up. They still sound amazing at a distance but they are better closer.

 

[Dgob]

Did you compare it to 8381 by any chance?

No. Unfortunately, they didn't have it in that centre at the time; although they do have it in the other centre across London. I was invited to visit that one as well, but as space and finances are hugely unlikely to ever make this a real option, I have so far declined the offer.