It would be a killer setup if they can actually implement it. It seems like the PowerNode is an older processor, so it “shouldn’t” be too hard.At this time![]()
It would be a killer setup if they can actually implement it. It seems like the PowerNode is an older processor, so it “shouldn’t” be too hard.At this time![]()
@GXAlan Can you expand on why Qrono will hurt THD? Does that mean Qrono is a bad thing, or THD measurement is not an accurate reflection of sound quality?Now the real question is how the Node Icon measures. The QRONO d2a will hurt THD on synthetic tests, but the real question will be residual noise, crosstalk, and AC mains noise.
Can you list the confirmed issues that can be attributed to the Icon? This could be helpful for future purchasing decisions.all the issues here, elsewhere
I would also be very interested in these known issues. Thanks.Well, all the issues here
Circling back on this, my Wiim ultra goes into standby as soon as I turn my TV off. LG G4 in my case. Node icon did not. Also I do like I can adjust the standby time for wiim whereas the node is fixed at 15min. Also contrary to posts in the Wiim ultra thread, I have yet to experience an audio drop out (but I do have a DAC between it and speakers via USB)WiiM Ultra does not seem to power down (or go into standby) with CEC power down.
How do the 2 different screen sizes compare? Is the icon better at a distance?Circling back on this, my Wiim ultra goes into standby as soon as I turn my TV off. LG G4 in my case. Node icon did not. Also I do like I can adjust the standby time for wiim whereas the node is fixed at 15min. Also contrary to posts in the Wiim ultra thread, I have yet to experience an audio drop out (but I do have a DAC between it and speakers via USB)
For me, they both meh, but the icon does have a larger screen, so will be better. The font face changing on Wiim seemed better. Wiim in general seems to have a more feature rich and intuitive app/software. Both show volume UI similar. Wish it was larger though. But I am 10 feet away, and the only things I care about are volume meter and clock. Rest is pretty much unreadable and useless if like me you are primarily using it via HDMI arc.How do the 2 different screen sizes compare? Is the icon better at a distance?
The lack of chromecast & upnp, plus dependence on TuneIn, is pretty much a deal breaker for me. The Eversolo looks like a better option.For me, they both meh, but the icon does have a larger screen, so will be better. The font face changing on Wiim seemed better. Wiim in general seems to have a more feature rich and intuitive app/software. Both show volume UI similar. Wish it was larger though. But I am 10 feet away, and the only things I care about are volume meter and clock. Rest is pretty much unreadable and useless if like me you are primarily using it via HDMI arc.
Since WiimU doesn't have airplay, I will have to use my apple tv to stream and can airplay to the apple tv also. I can Google cast directly to WiimU. Since Node doesn't have Google cast, I was using my Google TV to cast. I could airplay directly to node. So in that regards I loose out on 1 and gain the other lol. I am an android phone user and an iPad user. In an ideal world each of the devices will have Google cast and airplay, maybe they will some day via firmware upgrade. Till then I am stuck with using either the Apple TV or Google TV.
The icon's top controls are quite unintuitive, borderline poor design/accessibility. WiimU round button control is better.
Forgot to mention, 1 big thing missing from WiimU is lack of USB input. If that's important, Node icon will be better. Since my wiimU is connected to a DAC, I will just use the dacs USB input if I need to connect directly to the speakers. But yeah, its definitely an additional device and more wires. Node was just a single box, albeit 3x the cost.
...virtually all the 'positive' stuff in this and other forums being from people who appear to be affiliated in some way with Lenbrook or their products.
Where downmixing is possible, theater mode should also be possible![]()
Interesting. I didn’t think about using the WiiM Ultra when I had it that way. If the DAC had XLR out, it might have avoided the hum I got with my WiiM Ultra.(but I do have a DAC between it and speakers via USB)
It’s definitely not 100% straightforward.Resolving Ground Loop Noise Issues with the NODE ICON and XLR Connections
The Bluesound NODE ICON is a two-plug power product with no ground. It has a floating ground as it is the preferred grounding style for audiophiles. The NODE ICON does not have the provision to con...support1.bluesound.com
Looks like they officially said, go figure it out on your own, we aren't changing our "audiophile" design.
Correct.Lots of Dirac enabled products should support ART.
What a stupid answer they gave, they basically got the design wrong.Resolving Ground Loop Noise Issues with the NODE ICON and XLR Connections
The Bluesound NODE ICON is a two-plug power product with no ground. It has a floating ground as it is the preferred grounding style for audiophiles. The NODE ICON does not have the provision to con...support1.bluesound.com
Looks like they officially said, go figure it out on your own, we aren't changing our "audiophile" design.
My local shop has an Icon reserved for me, it should arrive in 4 days. Will be picking it up provided I don't get cold feet for some reason!
The only plus over the Ultra is a larger screen. In other respects the icon has many fewer features.Does this thread give you cold feet! i was pondering how much of a upgrade icon will be over the wiim ultra
But ART is still only available on one device. So suggesting that the Node Icon works as a home theatre L/R is probably best avoided no matter how much of a NAD/Bluesound fan you are (unless you have some insider info).Correct.
Agree. It would be interesting to see how it measures. If it measures well, then it’s well engineered but with different set of priorities.What a stupid answer they gave, they basically got the design wrong.
It's full of double insulated devices that obviously don't have "hum" issues.
Does this thread give you cold feet! i was pondering how much of a upgrade icon will be over the wiim ultra
The only plus over the Ultra is a larger screen. In other respects the icon has many fewer features.
WiiM Ultra | Bluesound Node Icon | |
Ground Loop Resistance | Grounding point | XLR out |
Mobile integration | Chromecast | AirPlay 2 |
HDMI | ARC | eARC |
RoomEQ | PEQ only (amplitude) | Dirac (amplitude and phase) with added cost |
DSD local file support | No | Yes |
Phono Input | Yes | No |
Requires Precise Location Privilege for iOS app | Yes | No |
Digital Filter | User selectable | Fixed, QRONO d2a |
WiFi | 802.11ax | 802.11ac |
Headphone Out | Mediocre | THX AAA |
1 kHz SINAD | 116 dB | ??? |