Big news coming from Sound United in 2023!

[TheAVInsider]

Denon AVR-X3800H AV Receiver

 

[Vacceo]

It´s interesting to see that while Marantz has changed the aesthetics a bit, Denon keeps the same classic style. Not that I think it is a flaw, Denon is elegant in its functionalism.

 

[Sal1950]

That said, what are you aiming for to substitute the loss?

I got a Denon X4700H

 

[Vacceo]

I got a Denon X4700H

Is there something you´re missing or welcoming from your previous AVR?

 

[Sal1950]

Is there something you´re missing or welcoming from your previous AVR?

Not so far.
At least nothing of consequence.
I do miss the legacy of having a descendant of Classic US Saul Marantz components here.
Denon just screams Japanese to me.

 

[Vacceo]

Not so far.
At least nothing of consequence.
I do miss the legacy of having a descendant of Classic US Saul Marantz components here.
Denon just screams Japanese to me.

At this point, Marantz is as American as I am. I happened to live in Indiana for almost a decade, so go guess...

 

[Sal1950]

At this point, Marantz is as American as I am. I happened to live in Indiana for almost a decade, so go guess...

Actually the good news is that Sound United, it's parent DEI Holdings, and it's parent Charlesbank Capitol Partners are all US firms and paying their taxes to Uncle Sam.
WooHoo, what comes around, goes around.

 

[GXAlan]

Actually the good news is that Sound United, it's parent DEI Holdings, and it's parent Charlesbank Capitol Partners are all US firms and paying their taxes to Uncle Sam.
WooHoo, what comes around, goes around.

Masimo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is the current owner of Sound United but it's also a US company.

 

[Sal1950]

Masimo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is the current owner of Sound United but it's also a US company.

More good news.

Revenue	US $1,239.2 million (2022)[1]

 

[Vacceo]

Actually the good news is that Sound United, it's parent DEI Holdings, and it's parent Charlesbank Capitol Partners are all US firms and paying their taxes to Uncle Sam.
WooHoo, what comes around, goes around.

I sincerely hope they do, indeed, pay taxes.

 

[GXAlan]

I sincerely hope they do, indeed, pay taxes.

At least according to SEC filings, they do. I am sure they know all sorts of loopholes and take advantage of them.

 

[Sal1950]

I sincerely hope they do, indeed, pay taxes.

Of course they do, the amount I posted are reported earnings, you can't duck them all, though I'm sure they take advantage of every deduction they can, just like you and I do.
But the bottom line is, whatever the amount it goes into the US economy and not into China's, Japan's, Korea's, or anyone else.
Charity should always begin at home.

 

[Vacceo]

Of course they do, the amount I posted are reported earnings, you can't duck them all, though I'm sure they take advantage of every deduction they can, just like you and I do.
But the bottom line is, whatever the amount it goes into the US economy and not into China's, Japan's, Korea's, or anyone else.
Charity should always begin at home.

I haven't paid taxes over there since 2015. When I did, I had no loopholes to take advantage as my salary was too low.

 

[ROOSKIE]

Agree. And as I am too new to this forum. I haven’t seen (m)any hard facts and figures where Dirac is provenly better. What would help is to have some REW measurements using both Dirac and Audyssey in a common living room listening environment with everything else unchanged.

The steady state in room measurements don't tell you enough.
Many factors are in play here.
There needs to be blind testing done. So far I haven't seen much evidence of that at all by the companies.
Awhile back Harman published some blind test results but that stuff is outdated now though it is fair to point out that in those tests the "room correction/room adaptation", didn't always shine.

 

[Spinitch]

Denon evidently will release in Japan. On tech sites AVR-X3800H：￥181,500／10月下旬. The X3700 was not available in Japan.

 

[GXAlan]

デノン、9.4ch出力可能な8K対応AVアンプ「AVR-X3800H」。360 Reality Audioもサポート - PHILE WEB

デノン、9.4ch出力可能な8K対応AVアンプ「AVR-X3800H」。360 Reality Audioもサポート

www.phileweb.com

Official details about the Denon!

 

[GXAlan]

プレスリリース | Denon公式

AVR-X3800H / AVR-X2800H / AVR-X580BT　8K/4K UHD時代の高画質&高音質コンテンツを楽しみ尽くすための 高性能AVサラウンドレシーバー3モデルを発売！

www.denon.jp

Japanese press release

 

[sweetchaos]

プレスリリース | Denon公式

AVR-X3800H / AVR-X2800H / AVR-X580BT　8K/4K UHD時代の高画質&高音質コンテンツを楽しみ尽くすための 高性能AVサラウンドレシーバー3モデルを発売！

www.denon.jp

Japanese press release

Finally, some official announcements...

 

[delta76]

It seems VAT in Japan is 10%, so that means the price where I live would be a bit more than 200k yen (~1430 $). not too bad and definitely lower than expected.
if that is indeed the retail price, I'll bite.

 

[Miker 1102]

The steady state in room measurements don't tell you enough.
Many factors are in play here.
There needs to be blind testing done. So far I haven't seen much evidence of that at all by the companies.
Awhile back Harman published some blind test results but that stuff is outdated now though it is fair to point out that in those tests the "room correction/room adaoration" didn't always shine.

The steady state in room measurements don't tell you enough.
Many factors are in play here.
There needs to be blind testing done. So far I haven't seen much evidence of that at all by the companies.
Awhile back Harman published some blind test results but that stuff is outdated now though it is fair to point out that in those tests the "room correction/room adaoration" didn't always shine.

I have seen a lot of rew measurements on the Dirac sub on reedit. It starts to get to technical for me after a while. I was trying to learn the basics. People discussed AB measurements and the different curves between Audyssey and the limitations in adjusting individual speakers. I think we live in an incredibe time for audio tech.