Thanks Jae. The latest DAC review I can find is here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dm7-8-channel-dac-review.35661/Just look at the latest DAC review, the latest chart will be there.
Well it already has USB for that purpose doesn't it? That fits probably 99% of people's needs what would use using this with some kind of PC/laptop, phone, tablet etc. I can't really see anyone choosing to use this device as a DAC for something like a TV or CD player even if the spdif was a digital IN because the use case of needing headphones and bluetooth in that instance isn't really there.I think most would want a digital connection to avoid noise and degradation etc...
The add on box is probably for the small minority that still use an analog only device I would assume.
Ah, as far as I can remember only headphone amplifier/dac combo unit reviews have a 50 mv SNR chartThanks Jae. The latest DAC review I can find is here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dm7-8-channel-dac-review.35661/
I see the SINAD all-products-tested chart, but I don't see the dynamic range chart (i.e., pure signal-to-noise without THD). Memory tells me that I've seen a pure dynamic range listing on ASR in the past, but I can no longer find it. Any ideas?
They did it!I love the dual USB C input for power and data,
But the Spdif/toslink output shuld be an input and and i would buy it instantly.
To me this product is only interesting/useful because of the supposed digital OUT, which pretty much no products have except RME's top of the line stuff, and purpose built USB -> spdif interfaces like the Douk U2 etc.
There are two listings for it on Amazon, and oddly the listing for the one sold by Lavaudio Direct doesn't come up as the first search result, but rather the second. $149.99 with a $50 coupon right now:I'm seeing this on Amazon now for $199.99 new, not the lower figure in Amir's review topper...
Thanks for that link to the coupon. I was able to snag one of these with the $50 coupon. I needed something to push my beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro (250 ohm) headphones better than my motherboard's on-board sound. This little thing does that. It DOES NOT get as loud as I was hoping...but it's still an improvement.There are two listings for it on Amazon, and oddly the listing for the one sold by Lavaudio Direct doesn't come up as the first search result, but rather the second. $149.99 with a $50 coupon right now:
If you want to save a bit of money, another company sells what looks like an identical device with slightly different case aesthetics for $87.99 ($109.99 - 20% off), the YMOO DS400+:
Amazon seller info shows that Lavaudio Direct and YMOO Office are based out of Shenzhen, I wonder if they are connected, or if there is another ODM who makes the device for both of them?
What headphones are you trying to drive? If they aren't too hard to drive (or you don't have a balanced cable for them), you might want to take a look at the Sabaj DA3, which used to be over $100, but is selling for $62 right now, and has both a standard 3.5mm headphone jack and a 2.5mm balanced jack which would deliver more power for hard to drive headphones:Welp...the Lavaudio DS400 lasted less than a week before I sent it back to Amazon. It drove my beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro (250 ohm) headphones better than my crappy motherboard's on-board sound chip, but not by a lot. Then, add to that, the 3.5mm headphone jack was...wonky. Wiggle the headphone cord a bit...one side would cut out.
Because my motherboard is pretty crappy, (ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4) I'd like to avoid one that gets both signal and power via USB, so looking for one that gets the audio signal via USB and power from the wall.
So, being retired on a very fixed income, and with my limited budget, I'm left with only a few options.
FX-Audio DAC-X6 (didn't review very well here) ( review here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...c-compared-to-topping-d30-and-fiio-e10k.2097/)
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Or a used Fiio K5 Pro-NON ESS version. (don't know the seller, across the country from me)
(example, not the actual unit) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=headfi-20
Not ideal, but MIGHT work (depending on my USB for power) is the Creative SoundblasterX G6 or similar. I think I'd prefer to avoid an internal sound card. IME, they're prone to picking up "noise" from the various components.
unfortunately, while I'm KIND OF in amirm's neighborhood (western WA)...I'm so far out past the outskirts of BFE that the closest thing I have to an electronics shop within about 75 miles is Walmart. That leaves me with having to buy things on-line, sight unseen and without being able to actually test them.
Any help, insights, and/or input would be greatly appreciated.
What headphones are you trying to drive? If they aren't too hard to drive (or you don't have a balanced cable for them), you might want to take a look at the Sabaj DA3, which used to be over $100, but is selling for $62 right now, and has both a standard 3.5mm headphone jack and a 2.5mm balanced jack which would deliver more power for hard to drive headphones:
I think you should be ok. Amir said in his review of the DA3, "I did listen to my power hungry Sennheiser HD-650s with the Da3 using unbalanced output and it seemed to have sufficient drive for it toward the end of its volume scale. Sonically I did not detect any faults or signatures." The HD-650 is 300 ohms.Sorry, forgot...beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro. 250 ohms.