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Yamaha R-N2000A network receiver

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Yamaha K-1020 on top.
Yamaha K-850 below.
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Basically yes, but I am no expert.
Comparing my amps, from AS1100 to Aiyima 07, the difference is rather smaller as I test with low end speakers.
On the other hand, it is a crazy downward spiral you know, speakers asking for better amp, then new amp asking for new speakers and so on...
I am a fan of big 3 way standfloors. But bookshelves with sw are also a complete solution and Rn803d also has Ypao with bass management, why change?
You're right..i'll use that money for a beach vacation!
 
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You're right..i'll use that money for a beach vacation!
Well, you already have YPAO, bass management, Musiccast, loudness, enough watts... Basically you would upgrade the amplification part, which is not small thing.

However, I am in other dilemma. I have both Rn803d and AS1100. 1100 is better, but YPAO (courtesy of Rn803d) does not make a difference in my room. So, I am doubting that Rn2000 will do better than As1100, either by the amplification or by Ypao. Not too many reasons to order the dam' shiny good looking box
 

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Hi,
Does anyone know if pure direct mode bypasses the adc converter? Or does it just disable the dsp processing but still go through the adc/dac conversion?
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Let's see if Armin will review any of them. I bought the rn803d based on his review.
 

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"Harmonious Diaphragm cone" :facepalm:

Well, it seems YPAO can only be used in automatic mode, so you have to live with it's result or deactivate it. No rec select and no pre-out/main-in loop either.
Shame.

The enclosure of the RN1000a and RN800a are based on the old A-S300 (10kg class) line, with a different front plate obviously. That should keep cost down. They have nothing in common with the RN2000a (25kg class).
The power amp section and general layout seems to be based on the A-S701/801, R-S700 and R-N 803D. Same old, same old, which is good in my book, no need to reinvent what works.
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I can recognise good ol' generation by the 'kg class' judgement

Looks like no need to upgrade from RN803D. RN2000 is a different animal but at what price?!
 

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I can recognise good ol' generation by the 'kg class' judgement
Well, they are fundamentally different, check out the guts of this A-S1000 (25kg class) and A-S701 (10kg class):
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Looks like no need to upgrade from RN803D. RN2000 is a different animal but at what price?!
Jep, looks like just a refresh of the RN803D platform. Didn't have that yet, so i can't tell for sure how much commonality is there, but i suspect it will be a lot, like 99%.
 

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No upgrade then from Rn803d... let's wait for Amir ! Only after his opinion, i will I make a possible change...
 
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For sure, little reason to update to the little new guys, except update the price badge

Told ya, the amplifier part of Rn2000A is a different animal in itself...
 

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Quite a significant price difference (+50%) between the R-N800a and the R-N1000A for an HDMI entrance and supposedly more qualitative materials. I don't understand the added value of HDMI to optical connection for a 2.1 system. Isn't the main point of HDMI ARC to allow pass-through of fancy multichannel audio formats? Is it just about the convenience of using the TV remote for volume control? €500 for that convenience?

Nevertheless, I find the R-N800a quite an attractive proposition for a 2.1 system. If I understand correctly YPAO let's you put a high pass and low pass on the mains / subwoofer out?
 

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Convince me not to switch from nr803d to rn1000 or rn2000a.

Current System:
Yamaha rn803D
Elac dbr62 speakers
Schiit Lokius
Dac : Sanskrit 10th
Subwoofer : mivoc hype g2.

Listening: streaming from cell phone Amazon music ultra Hd.

I am too tempted by the new models.


thanks to all.
Pasquale
 

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Convince me not to switch from nr803d to rn1000 or rn2000a.

Current System:
Yamaha rn803D
Elac dbr62 speakers
Schiit Lokius
Dac : Sanskrit 10th
Subwoofer : mivoc hype g2.

Listening: streaming from cell phone Amazon music ultra Hd.

I am too tempted by the new models.


thanks to all.
Pasquale
Take a beach holiday. :D
 

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Perhaps a cold shower would be more effective
 

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I will wait for Amir's review, if it ever comes, and then decide whether or not to spend 3500 euros.
 

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Convince me not to switch from nr803d to rn1000 or rn2000a.
The RN2000a is clearly an upgrade in build quality. Not sure i can or should stop you there.:cool:

But the RN1000 isn't much of an upgrade, it's just a facelift.
 

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The RN2000a is clearly an upgrade in build quality. Not sure i can or should stop you there.:cool:

But the RN1000 isn't much of an upgrade, it's just a facelift.
And do you think the quality of music would go up or would we stay there? Thanks
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And do you think the quality of music would go up or would we stay there? Thanks
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I have heard no difference between an A-S701 (which is what i suspect would be inside the RN1000) and a A-S1200 (which is what i suspect would be inside the RN2000a).
Doesn't mean you can't hear a difference, but there is my opinion. Either there are no audible differences (my suspicion) or they are tiny and don't matter (could be) or they are fundamental and i have wooden ears (don't think so;)).
On paper the A-S 1200 has more power into difficult loads, a bit more power and a vastly better phono pre-amp.

Then why did i keep the A-S 1200 over the A-S 701? For me it's more than just amplification, i also like a good looking amp with a certain heft and an aura of solidity. It just looks and feels great.
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If money is no problem, i'd go for the RN2000a. If you want to get rid of the 803D, i never had one to take pics and would be interested if you are in Europe.
If sound quality is your main concern and you don't care for heavy stuff, or money is tight, stick to what you have.
 
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Maybe the room matters, but I do think there is a clear difference between my 803 vs my 1100.
 
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