Jkdjedi
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harkpabst
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That's for sure.
Since you take the freedom to repeat your narrative surrounding your unfounded opinion over and over again, I will take the freedom to repeat my own unfounded opinion and the one simple fact I mentioned as well. The WiiM Ultra technically can support AirPlay. The feature has been removed prior to general availability. It did work during the initial beta testing. WiiM had no interest on their own to do so.Funny, you're asking for facts supporting my opinion while your own opinion goes along with not facts at all.
Funny again, that the list compiled by WhatsHiFi doesn't mention WiiM. That makes it not all inclusive by definition, doesn't it? Fact: AirPlay is absolutely meaningless for everyone using Android devices. But you know that already. Anyway, your whole argument is pointless. Listing the devices supporting AirPlay says absolutely nothing about why the Ultra is not on that list. The truth is not a matter of majorities or minorities.
Because Apple did certify the WiiM Mini. That's an easy one.
Like they certified the Pro, the Pro Plus and the WiiM Amp. We still don't know if or if not they will certify the WiiM Amp Pro. In the end it doesn't matter anyway. The Ultra is not allowed to expose itself as an AirPlay receiver and this is not going to change.
It is definitely the easiest current solution for those that have multiple Wiim products. Hope they don't kill it off with an update. Unfortunately, there is no way to opt out of updates, so if they decide to kill it, there isn't anything we can do.
It sounds like Wiim went around the hoop everyone else had to go through. Maybe they got to the finish line, but that isn't the point. They had to go through the hoop like everyone else and apparently they didn't.That's for sure.
Funny, you're asking for facts supporting my opinion while your own opinion goes along with not facts at all.
Funny again, that the list compiled by WhatsHiFi doesn't mention WiiM. That makes it not all inclusive by definition, doesn't it? Fact: AirPlay is absolutely meaningless for everyone using Android devices. But you know that already. Anyway, your whole argument is pointless. Listing the devices supporting AirPlay says absolutely nothing about why the Ultra is not on that list. The truth is not a matter of majorities or minorities.
Because Apple did certify the WiiM Mini. That's an easy one.
In the end it doesn't matter anyway. The Ultra is not allowed to expose itself as an AirPlay receiver and this is not going to change.
Don't worry, this is my last post on who is to blame. Unless Apple and Wiim both give their sides, it is just speculation. If others want to continue discussing it, it is on them.
At the end of the day, it is irrelevant because it isn't in the device. Not a deal breaker for me.
harkpabst
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It sounds like you don't have any facts.
I offered him one of mine a few weeks back, and he very politely said no thanks, as he expected he already had it, although he wasn't completely sure as he hadn't opened the relevant shipping box yet. (Yeah, he's that busy.)
harkpabst
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Which AirPlay transmitter did you find in Belkin's product range? The only aitem I found supporting AirPlay is the "SoundForm Connect":
AirPlay 2 Audio Adapter with Optical + 3.5mm | Belkin US
Our Audio Adapter with AirPlay 2 is a plug-and-play way to wirelessly stream from your iOS device to any speaker with an optical or 3.5mm input. Shop now.
www.belkin.com
This is an AirPlay receiver, though. It doesn't cast AirPlay. It has an analog 3.5 mm output and a digital TOSLINK output.
Looking at the app you will find that it is mostly identical to the WiiM app, so the Belkin SoundForm Connect is build using Linkplay (the company behind WiiM) modules.
somebodyelse
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How many other AirPlay devices are using Linkplay modules? That could make any breakdown of relations between Apple and Linkplay/Wiim reach further than might be expected.Looking at the app you will find that it is mostly identical to the WiiM app, so the Belkin SoundForm Connect is build using Linkplay (the company behind WiiM) modules.
Yorkshire Mouth
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I think he not only got himself banned, but blamed the wrong person for banning him, then insulted a lot of people, burning his bridges. I think he was banned from this thread, but then either left, or got himself deliberately banned from ASR as a whole. My apologies, my memory isn’t perfect on this.
I always appreciate anyone’s work in providing measurements, but that wasn’t the issue. The problem was that he has a clear agenda, and again one that’s contrary to the ethos of ASR.
Unfortunately, that agenda is so strong, whilst I’d never say his results were deliberately inaccurate, I just don’t feel I can 100% trust them.
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yet they have always been..... have been the most exhaustive and precocious... (the protocols are of the same type as "vintage" for example...but with the addition of measurements to the scope (pico200mhz), or recently, this interesting game with the holo)
just that they do not put it in the forms of certain people and that you have to be a little "armed" to understand them (which is clearly not so much your case)...
in any case your remarks are really inappropriate...
(on the other hand with your behavior and personal aspects...I think in fact that he will not fully realize the effort on the ultra...)
but don't worry.. some ASR actors will be here soon on the reviews side to interest you ;-)
without lpf i hope...
(Faced at the problem of power supply, this LPF, to be "positive", I regret to add a lot of confusion for those who do not really see things in perspective.)
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Yorkshire Mouth
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It’s difficult not be touched, indeed deeply moved by a post like that.
morillon
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you know I'm not 10-12 years old....
'ASR actors'? I appreciate there is often a bit of a language barrier when interpreting your posts, but you seem to be implying and that the work done by @amirm , @VintageFlanker is of less value than that done by Onlyoneme or that they have less technical understanding/knowledge than Onlyoneme?
Plus, the measurements put forward by Onlyoneme are by no means 'exhaustive', they are quite focussed on particular areas of interest to Onlyoneme. So a more comprehensive review, Inc headphone output measurements for example, would surely be welcome?
I have mine set to 2V and set max volume to 90%.
Seems to align with recommended input to amp I’m using. (1.8V) assuming it’s doing what I think it’s doing.
staticV3
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No need to assume if you have a basic multimeter laying around somewhere.
Measuring output voltage is really straightforward.
Yorkshire Mouth
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I’ll write that down.
Actually, it’s nothing to do with any language barrier. At all.
morillon
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just that what he has produced so far was done with modest means (same kind as "vintage") with rigor and often the addition of original measures or approaches ( scoped num output or see comparisons under pkane delta or nid tests etc. )...
with phono or headphones will be more delicate for him but above all I think he is fed up... on the other hand until now his measurements have never been taken at fault and always confirmed afterwards....that's all... and there it is not a good sign for the ultra (had already been the case for the pro plus in first batch and on the amp with a need for "discreet" recall... if you want to see an idolatry of the onlyoneme....your problem..not mine...
hihi
It doesn't seem to me that he sought to become an "internet actor", "influencer", etc. Besides, he hardly gives any opinions or conclusions... and that is often criticized... many want grades or rankings...
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let's wait for other people's measurements...and forget all that ;-)
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Yorkshire Mouth
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Just as a general point, and no disrespect to anyone else, but Amir is a professional rather than a hobbyist, with professional kit, rather than hobbyist kit.
He also presents his results in a very user-friendly format, rather than what looks like (to me) the approach of some others, which appears to be to wilfully bombard people with a mountain of ill-explained (or not explained at all) data, some of which appears to have little relevance, and in a manner which has the appearance of saying “Look how clever I am, plebs!”
Coupled with a tendency to answer any question with the tone of “If you need to ask that, I don’t need to bother myself with you.”
It’s quite unpleasant, and leaves a bad taste in the mouth, especially when we’re at public forums, and our raison d'etre is to help each other, which includes communicating as clearly and politely as possible.
One of the many reasons I like Amir and most posters here at ASR.
He also presents his results in a very user-friendly format, rather than what looks like (to me) the approach of some others, which appears to be to wilfully bombard people with a mountain of ill-explained (or not explained at all) data, some of which appears to have little relevance, and in a manner which has the appearance of saying “Look how clever I am, plebs!”
Coupled with a tendency to answer any question with the tone of “If you need to ask that, I don’t need to bother myself with you.”
It’s quite unpleasant, and leaves a bad taste in the mouth, especially when we’re at public forums, and our raison d'etre is to help each other, which includes communicating as clearly and politely as possible.
One of the many reasons I like Amir and most posters here at ASR.
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