WiiM Ultra

[Jkdjedi]

At one point the volume icon would swing from right to left upside down off the screen of the Wiim, there the swings were wide per push, don't remember which update it was but the obvious is it now is upright swinging left to right with a tighter swing. Currently enjoying my jazz playlist

Favorite Jazz Music

Listen to Favorite Jazz Music on TIDAL

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[Pearljam5000]

Is this the best way to connect the Genelecs to the Wiim Ultra?

 

[Mort]

RCA line out from the Wiim to XLR in the Genelec. These are often recommended:

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[staticV3]

Is this the best way to connect the Genelecs to the Wiim Ultra?

Best way would be Coax out -> Neutrik NADITBNC-M -> AES3 -> 8341A.

That removes one D->A and one A->D conversion from the signal chain altogether.

 

[Mort]

Best way would be Coax out -> Neutrik NADITBNC-M -> AES3 -> 8341A.

That removes one D->A and one A->D conversion from the signal chain altogether.

Damn you are good.

 

[5onderling]

I basically just ordered that stuff 2 days ago to do exactly that. And I ordered the WiiM Ultra too of course, so it can hopefully replace my BlueSound Node. I will report how it turns out, but I guess it will just work.

 

[darth]

Another potential option for Genelecs. Has AES/EBU out.

Fiio S15, due soon™ with a rumored price tag of under 1000.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0241wtxcu7AALo9qmWwNk8Y3K5TpMChZUxDt2FCFws7r8QuCr6Ts2X3bxd44P2yArWl&id=100064482828434

 

[Vieux]

USB out - what for? Is it better than optical to DAC?

Needle drop, everything that get is digitalized

Room correction work great, with 7 pair speakers, fun part graphic analysis show where your room hurt!

 

[5onderling]

Another potential option for Genelecs. Has AES/EBU out.

Fiio S15, due soon™ with a rumored price tag of under 1000.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0241wtxcu7AALo9qmWwNk8Y3K5TpMChZUxDt2FCFws7r8QuCr6Ts2X3bxd44P2yArWl&id=100064482828434

This looks amazing. Why are you telling me about now that I already ordered the WiiM?
I only wonder about the software, for WiiM I heard a lot of very good things. FiiO I can't tell, in my head the fact that it's android based is a red flag, but maybe it's not so bad.

 

[JaccoW]

Another potential option for Genelecs. Has AES/EBU out.

Fiio S15, due soon™ with a rumored price tag of under 1000.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0241wtxcu7AALo9qmWwNk8Y3K5TpMChZUxDt2FCFws7r8QuCr6Ts2X3bxd44P2yArWl&id=100064482828434

Link didn't work for me. Images rehosted.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Under $1000?
Could be $999 lol

 

[tw99]

Under $1000?
Could be $999 lol

Yes, certainly looks more Eversolo price range than WiiM

 

[Smitty2k1]

Under $1000?
Could be $999 lol

it would 100% be $999 if the company themselves say "under $1000"

 

[darth]

Per the Facebook thread, they have now officially said "around $1000" so can be more, like their K19 dac. They been replying to people asking.

EDIT: Data point: They said around 1400 for K19 and it came in actually at 1299. So dunno lol

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Release date they say Oct or Nov

https://twitter.com/x/status/1834795642390298715

 

[James240]

Decided to add a pair of Genelec G3 to my ever growing setup all good to just use lineout on the ultra to connect them?

Looks like i need to get a single RCA stereo for each Genelec R/L speaker? as all my RCA cables are 2 headed red/white ones.

 

[harkpabst]

Looks like i need to get a single RCA stereo for each Genelec R/L speaker? as all my RCA cables are 2 headed red/white ones.

Many (but not all) van be stripped apart rather easily. OTOH buying new bales makes many listeners happy.

 

[Jeromeof]

This looks amazing. Why are you telling me about now that I already ordered the WiiM?
I only wonder about the software, for WiiM I heard a lot of very good things. FiiO I can't tell, in my head the fact that it's android based is a red flag, but maybe it's not so bad.

I would say it will be Android based (like the other FiiO Streaming devices) like the R7 and R9. Pity it hasn't got a a headphone jack on the front - but if that front USB works as DAC there are lots of simple headphone amplifiers to plug into it.

As an experiment with my WiiM Ultra I thought I would give it a Balanced headphone output using a little FiiO Headphone amp via its usb connection on the back:

 

[BSerg]

Hello everyone. Tell me, please: 1. Is it possible to turn off the screen on Ultra, or can the screen turn off itself after a while? 2. How many PEQ bands exactly, 4 or 10? 3. Now I use a Chinese DAC and a D amplifier to watch TV and listen to music from my smartphone, but I want to use room correction. Do you think it's better to use Ultra for this, or is Pro Plus enough? Thank you.

 

[morillon]

Hello everyone. Tell me, please: 1. Is it possible to turn off the screen on Ultra, or can the screen turn off itself after a while? 2. How many PEQ bands exactly, 4 or 10? 3. Now I use a Chinese DAC and a D amplifier to watch TV and listen to music from my smartphone, but I want to use room correction. Do you think it's better to use Ultra for this, or is Pro Plus enough? Thank you.

for your use, including an external dac, just a "pro" not even more will be suitable ("plus " is only a pro with better dac)... but you are not kidding, the subject of "rc" is not an easy subject and the results depending on the situations, measurement conditions etc. not definitely conclusive...otherwise it will be generalized a long time ago.... ;-)
the "plus" an interest if removing your external dac.. and the ultra if the use of a subwoofer and hdmi
( and I will in any case wait a few months for the possible purchase of an ultra until revisions are carried out)
(peq is 10 bands in pro , plus , amp , ultra...useful for headphone correction etc)
(I will in any case wait a few months for the possible purchase of an ultra until revisions are carried out)

ps
if your speakers are not difficult to power ,
you describe a lot the use of a simple wiim amp.... you just have to wait for the announced revision (+few months)...
just forget the screen of the ultra (often described as a little small to be so useful)


;-)

 

[harkpabst]

1. Is it possible to turn off the screen on Ultra, or can the screen turn off itself after a while?

You can turn it off completely. I don't think there's an option, yet, to let it go to sleep after a defined period of time. Might come later, perhaps or perhaps not.

2. How many PEQ bands exactly, 4 or 10?

10 bands. Either 10 bands applied to both channels simultaneously or - if you prefer that - 10 bands per channel. As of now, the WiiM automated room correction supports simultaneous L+R channel PEQ, only. Independent channel room correction is currently in public beta (but has just been broken with version 2.11.6 of the WiiM Home App. It will surely be fixed with the next release, but might still take some time until it makes it into the production firmware.

3. Now I use a Chinese DAC and a D amplifier to watch TV and listen to music from my smartphone, but I want to use room correction.

If you can use third party software like REW or HouseCurve, all of the above talk about stereo or L+R RC doesn't matter anyway. You can manually set the PEQ filters, then either per channel or combined.

If you want to rely on a simple automated process for RC, then - as pointed out by @morillon - you should be aware of its limitations. Depending on your room and your (phone's) mic the results may be beneficial or not so much. In any case it makes sense to restrict the frequency range RC is working on.

WiiM's default is rather on the generous side (40 Hz to 4 kHz), but you can easily limit this range further. Also, max Q (default: 10) and max gain (default: 10 dB) are a bit on the high side, but (again) can be changed easily.

In one sentence: Be prepared to play around and tinker a little.