WiiM Ultra

[Brian Hall]

Your use case is surely a rather extreme one. I hope you have set the V3 Monos to 25 dB gain.

However, this point has actually been criticized from the beta stage on. WiiM didn't listen.

Ironically, third party apps like e.g. Tidal using Tidal Connect can set the volume in increments of 1%. At least some TVs can do it as well through HDMI CEC. It's just the WiiM Home App and the hardware remote that are limited to 3% steps.

I forgot to change them to 25db. That helped. Good catch.

 

[staticV3]

I forgot to change them to 25db. That helped. Good catch.

Limiting the output voltage in the WiiM Home App will also make the steps more granular.

You could start with the lowest setting and work your way up.

 

[Jkdjedi]

Wondering if he's updated his firmware

 

[harkpabst]

It's rather hard to avoid updates ...

 

[Abdo]

New FW:

5.2.629945 (In Progress)​

Release date:
9 / 20 / 2024
What's New:

1. USB Output (S24_3LE): Added support for S24_3LE audio format output via USB.
2. Plex Support (Beta): Integrated Plex for direct music access and playback in the WiiM Home app (iOS 2.11.6 required; Android support coming soon).
3. Playback Enhancements:
   • Fixed occasional no sound issues with Alexa Multi-room and Bluetooth Input.
   • Corrected metadata for custom radio stations and reduced cracking noise in some MP3 files.
   • Improved real-time playback after resuming from radio streams.
4. Chromecast SDK Update: Improved playback for multiple music streaming platforms and Google Speaker Groups (ensure Google Home is up-to-date).
5. Screen Enhancements: Addressed issues with brightness adjustment, VU meter, and UI during OTA updates.

Bug Fixes:

1. USB Media Library: Fixed missing metadata for certain WAV files.
2. General Enhancements: Various bug fixes and performance improvements.

 

[tsfreo]

Playing around with room correction with my Ultra. Has anyone else found more success by limiting correction to 500 Hz or so. I found running correction more 'full range' I got an unnatural or veiled effect that I did not like at all.
In a small room, with bookies and a sub I was able to tighten up bass response and after I did a little manual moving around of the correction result (I reduced the amount that the auto correction was reducing the signal at 37Hz (maybe changed a -3.5 to -2.5 or so) to dial in something that I liked. Still working on it by ear.
I had earlier tried the more full range room correction with a WiiM Pro earlier in the same room and gave up after a while - could not get a result that I liked.
Anyone else found something similar?

 

[Petrushka]

Playing around with room correction with my Ultra. Has anyone else found more success by limiting correction to 500 Hz or so. I found running correction more 'full range' I got an unnatural or veiled effect that I did not like at all.
In a small room, with bookies and a sub I was able to tighten up bass response and after I did a little manual moving around of the correction result (I reduced the amount that the auto correction was reducing the signal at 37Hz (maybe changed a -3.5 to -2.5 or so) to dial in something that I liked. Still working on it by ear.
I had earlier tried the more full range room correction with a WiiM Pro earlier in the same room and gave up after a while - could not get a result that I liked.
Anyone else found something similar?

I think Wiim supports this.

Something like HouseCurve, can build a correction curve from multiple locations.

 

[PA79]

Yes. Too easy to go from too quiet to too loud.

I both agree and disagree... If I'm using the Wiim remote, the volume changes too quickly, if I control the volume via CEC / eARC from my TV box remote, it changes too slowly, and if I do it from my phone, it feels just about right. Specifically, it feels like holding the volume rocker on my phone it changes slowly with a single press, and then speeds up with a long press.

 

[Burnside]

I both agree and disagree... If I'm using the Wiim remote, the volume changes too quickly, if I control the volume via CEC / eARC from my TV box remote, it changes too slowly, and if I do it from my phone, it feels just about right. Specifically, it feels like holding the volume rocker on my phone it changes slowly with a single press, and then speeds up with a long press.

Thought I was reading Goldilocks and the Three Bears there

 

[PA79]

Thought I was reading Goldilocks and the Three Bears there

Can you tell I'm an elementary school teacher...

 

[PA79]

I both agree and disagree... If I'm using the Wiim remote, the volume changes too quickly, if I control the volume via CEC / eARC from my TV box remote, it changes too slowly, and if I do it from my phone, it feels just about right. Specifically, it feels like holding the volume rocker on my phone it changes slowly with a single press, and then speeds up with a long press.

I just tried it again, and it's even more complicated... Within the Wiim app on my phone, a single press changes volume by 3, from within Spotify it changes by 2, and from within Tidal it changes by 1... Long press from inside all apps results in a fast sweep through the volume dial. Long press on the remote for my TV box doesn't speed things up - it's just slooooow. I doubt any of this can be influenced by Wiim though, more's the pity.

 

[Jkdjedi]

At one point the volume icon would swing from right to left upside down off the screen of the Wiim, there the swings were wide per push, don't remember which update it was but the obvious is it now is upright swinging left to right with a tighter swing. Currently enjoying my jazz playlist

Favorite Jazz Music

Listen to Favorite Jazz Music on TIDAL

tidal.com

 

[Pearljam5000]

Is this the best way to connect the Genelecs to the Wiim Ultra?

 

[Mort]

RCA line out from the Wiim to XLR in the Genelec. These are often recommended:

WORLDS BEST CABLES 2 Foot - RCA to XLR (Female) Cable Pair – Gotham GAC-4/1 (Black) Star-Quad Audio Interconnect Cable & Amphenol ACPL RCA & Neutrik Female XLR Gold Plugs - Custom Made

 

[staticV3]

Is this the best way to connect the Genelecs to the Wiim Ultra?

Best way would be Coax out -> Neutrik NADITBNC-M -> AES3 -> 8341A.

That removes one D->A and one A->D conversion from the signal chain altogether.

 

[Mort]

Best way would be Coax out -> Neutrik NADITBNC-M -> AES3 -> 8341A.

That removes one D->A and one A->D conversion from the signal chain altogether.

Damn you are good.

 

[5onderling]

I basically just ordered that stuff 2 days ago to do exactly that. And I ordered the WiiM Ultra too of course, so it can hopefully replace my BlueSound Node. I will report how it turns out, but I guess it will just work.

 

[darth]

Another potential option for Genelecs. Has AES/EBU out.

Fiio S15, due soon™ with a rumored price tag of under 1000.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0241wtxcu7AALo9qmWwNk8Y3K5TpMChZUxDt2FCFws7r8QuCr6Ts2X3bxd44P2yArWl&id=100064482828434

 

[Deleted member 78499]

USB out - what for? Is it better than optical to DAC?

Needle drop, everything that get is digitalized

Room correction work great, with 7 pair speakers, fun part graphic analysis show where your room hurt!

 

[5onderling]

Another potential option for Genelecs. Has AES/EBU out.

Fiio S15, due soon™ with a rumored price tag of under 1000.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0241wtxcu7AALo9qmWwNk8Y3K5TpMChZUxDt2FCFws7r8QuCr6Ts2X3bxd44P2yArWl&id=100064482828434

This looks amazing. Why are you telling me about now that I already ordered the WiiM?
I only wonder about the software, for WiiM I heard a lot of very good things. FiiO I can't tell, in my head the fact that it's android based is a red flag, but maybe it's not so bad.