ROOSKIE
Major Contributor
Because you saidso what? how is that even remotely relevant to the point?
"imagine (serious, non-humorous) watching cooking shows hosted by people who don't know anything about food and coming up with nonsensical recipes. or car shows where the "reviewers" can't even drive and don't know the difference between the engine and suspension and think top speed is the only relevant metric"
with my response to you I am saying there are many things that involve food that many folks who think they know about food don't know and others do know, yet they all involve food.
Is someone an 'amateur and an idiot' (what adjectives were used that sparked my OG post here) food person if they don't know how to install their new stove, or buy beef cattle, or cook authentic Thai food?
It takes talent to entertain people on YouTube and my point was this is only a problem if you take it to seriously. Not knowing how to make a spinorama or even how to interpret one does not make someone an idiot or an amateur.
Many people grossly overestimate their own level of skill and subject comprehension.
I never said anything close to what you came up with as a parallel.
I said nothing about not being constructively critical, I am a huge fan of such efforts. Is clumping Youtubers into a group of amateur's and idiots constructive? Is it even critical or is just condescending? Is there nothing of value in their art if they can not measure stuff like we do? I say lighten up.riiight... so applying the exact same logic, nobody should criticize any loudspeaker unless they provide evidence they can do a better one...
My original 2 posts (53 & 61) re: this issue, made it clear what I was saying and was not a shallow thing nor lacking opportunity for you to follow my drift.
You ought to re read them.
No it is not. Unless it is taken out of the context it is actually written in and then viewed with a lens looking for it to be so and ignoring the rest.
Anyway, my point was never to argue about this or anything. I, like many, want the objectivist crowd (which I am a part of) to lighten up. People are fools and we all have been fooled in life many, many times. Not one of us is that great and smart and awesome to have transcended the human condition which is totally absurd.
I totally enjoy some of the YouTubers and am happy they are promoting the hobby and the experience of great sound. I myself have turned many music loving folks on to a higher fidelity experience.
Very few folks, in fact no one in my 'civilian life', wants to measure anything or read test reports. I am the only one. I think that is typical.
I am grateful ASR,EAC and others point out objective value in say these Wharfedale speakers and the non existent value in say that $1800 coaxial cable just tested. I am also grateful some cats on the Tube, have the gumption to spend time and their days making videos and sharing conversation - even if I don't agree. Plus if they make some cash I am glad for them as long as they are not intentionally shilling bogus stuff. Way better then making money of McDonalds stock and fat kids on meds IMHO.
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