Stereo 130 or 230 from leak. Do we have any good reviews

[alaios]

Hi all,
are these two amplifiers from leak completely trash? It seems they are not reviewed in detail and I can not find in depth reviews. Why is that? Are these of so low quality?

 

[VintageFlanker]

Are these of so low quality?

You mean low quality marketing? They should have sent their products to any magazine to get glowing reviews as others do.

are these two amplifiers from leak completely trash? It seems they are not reviewed in detail and I can not find in depth reviews. Why is that?

Send one to @amirm we should be fixed at some point.

Measurements of the 130 there:

LEAK CDT/ 130 Stereo (+ Wharfedale Linton Heritage)

Nazwa Leak w praktyce determinuje, z jakimi urządzeniami mamy do czynienia, podczas gdy Linton to coś wyjątkowego w szerokiej ofercie Wharfedale. ...

audio.com.pl

Anecdotical performance for its price.

 

[alaios]

I only see "lifestyle" reviews without measurements and extensive testing. 'I live in Greece so hard to send one to @amirm

 

[nawfal07]

Lack of reviews is no indicator of quality. Either the company doesn't send review units to reviewers or it wasn't popular enough for reviewers to acquire with their own money.

Perhaps they're just protective and doesn't want their engineering leaked.

Members have been sending units to @amirm for review from all over the world, I don't think it would be a problem.

 

[alaios]

thanks. do I get the unit back shipped to Greece ?
This is the most serious review that I can find

 

[Chester]

thanks. do I get the unit back shipped to Greece ?
This is the most serious review that I can find

Only if it receives a golfing or football panther. Otherwise Amir tosses them into his pit of despair.

 

[alaios]

You mean low quality marketing? They should have sent their products to any magazine to get glowing reviews as others do.

Send one to @amirm we should be fixed at some point.

Measurements of the 130 there:

LEAK CDT/ 130 Stereo (+ Wharfedale Linton Heritage)

Nazwa Leak w praktyce determinuje, z jakimi urządzeniami mamy do czynienia, podczas gdy Linton to coś wyjątkowego w szerokiej ofercie Wharfedale. ...

audio.com.pl

Anecdotical performance for its price.

Can you please comment about the 130 measurements? What is so wrong with those?

 

[VintageFlanker]

AP measurements for the Stereo 130, by @John Atkinson :

Leak Stereo 230 integrated amplifier Measurements

Sidebar 3: Measurements I measured a different sample of the Leak Stereo 230, serial number LH000805CFD1195, than the one RS had auditioned. I performed the measurements using my Audio Precision SYS2722 system. I preconditioned the Stereo 230 by following the CEA's recommendation of running it...

www.stereophile.com

It's actually good, while not the last word for power.
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[alaios]

What good means? And how much power you see in the figure above?

 

[Barry_Sound]

What good means? And how much power you see in the figure above?

Depends on how loud you want to hear. Or if you have speakers that suck a lot of power.

"The power into 4 ohms we see peaking around 52 watts (0.15% THD) before it skyrockets."

Multitest - The best amplifier for 1000 Euro - 2022 edition

What a test. Eight integrated amplifiers in the price range around 1000 euros. We are not going to explain again what they do. You can read that.

www.alpha-audio.net

 

[Short38]

Read the entire set of measurements in this months Stereophile. Passes muster on multiple levels. For grins compare to the other amp reviewed in same issue.

 

[alaios]

Depends on how loud you want to hear. Or if you have speakers that suck a lot of power.

"The power into 4 ohms we see peaking around 52 watts (0.15% THD) before it skyrockets."

Multitest - The best amplifier for 1000 Euro - 2022 edition

What a test. Eight integrated amplifiers in the price range around 1000 euros. We are not going to explain again what they do. You can read that.

www.alpha-audio.net

no idea what it means that they might suck a lot of power.
Here are my specs

Oberon On-Wall
Frequency Range (+/-3 dB) [Hz]	55 - 26,000
Sensitivity (2,83 V/1 m) [dB]	86.5
Nominal Impedance [ohms]	6
Maximum SPL [dB]	107

 

[alaios]

Read the entire set of measurements in this months Stereophile. Passes muster on multiple levels. For grins compare to the other amp reviewed in same issue.

may I ask for a more specific link for this?

 

[Barry_Sound]

Oberon On-Wall speakers, are you using them for background music? Anyway, dont overthink the amp. Anything decent will work fine with your speakers.

 

[terryforsythe]

no idea what it means that they might suck a lot of power.
Here are my specs

Looks like the 230 is a little over 70 W into 8 ohms (Fig. 5) before the distortion gets too high, and around 100 W (Fig. 6) into 4 ohms. For 6 ohm speakers, figure somewhere around 85 W/channel of usable power.

With the sensitivity of your speakers, it may be adequate. But, much depends on the size of your room and how loud you like to listen to your music. If it is a medium to small room, and you listen at reasonable volume levels, it should be fine. If, however, you have a big room and like to crank it up, you probably need something more powerful.

Here is a review that came out today on the Leak Stereo 230:

 

[eddantes]

Yeah.... something about this unit and Leak in general smells wee bit...

"The operation of Direct mode (in this amplifier) has an immediately noticeable effect on the sound. You don't need "golden ears" for this, and many less experienced listeners will rate the results as phenomenal.

The secret of this success, however, lies not in simplifying the path and reducing noise, but in the fact that turning on Direct changes the sensitivity of the entire path and the voltage at the speaker outputs increases by 2 dB."

LOL as the kids say

 

[Short38]

may I ask for a more specific link for this?

Google Leak 230 Stereophile. Measurements by John Atkinson.

 

[alaios]

Oberon On-Wall speakers, are you using them for background music? Anyway, dont overthink the amp. Anything decent will work fine with your speakers.

I use them for all the music that I listen to. Having speakers at the floor was never an option

 

[alaios]

Yeah.... something about this unit and Leak in general smells wee bit...

"The operation of Direct mode (in this amplifier) has an immediately noticeable effect on the sound. You don't need "golden ears" for this, and many less experienced listeners will rate the results as phenomenal.

The secret of this success, however, lies not in simplifying the path and reducing noise, but in the fact that turning on Direct changes the sensitivity of the entire path and the voltage at the speaker outputs increases by 2 dB."

LOL as the kids say

do you mean it is a "cheap" unit?

 

[Puddingbuks]

I would get an amp with subwoofer out, as your oberon on wall doesn’t produce any low bass. I have six of them for atmos.