How to bypass av receiver’s internal dac?

[Forty six and two]

For sure, however does the OP have a sub? That wasn't made clear, @Forty six and two.

WiiM Pro Plus has PEQ functions.

Not necessarily.

How much peak power do you need?


JSmith

Yes i use a sub.

and my current denon avr 1912 is 90 wpc into 8 ohms. If i am going for a separate power amp 140 wpc would be great

 

[Chrispy]

Yes i use a sub.

and my current denon avr 1912 is 90 wpc into 8 ohms. If i am going for a separate power amp 140 wpc would be great

That's all of 1.9dB advantage, takes 3dB to make a subtle difference in volume (i.e. a doubling of power). If going power amp I'd get one more powerful if at all. Are you running short now in terms of power? A power amp can't be connected to your Denon, tho.

 

[Forty six and two]

That's all of 1.9dB advantage, takes 3dB to make a subtle difference in volume (i.e. a doubling of power). If going power amp I'd get one more powerful if at all. Are you running short now in terms of power? A power amp can't be connected to your Denon, tho.

 

[Forty six and two]

So 200 wpc would be a better option? Any recommendations?

And why is that power amp cant be connected to denon 1912?

 

[Chrispy]

So 200 wpc would be a better option? Any recommendations?

And why is that power amp cant be connected to denon 1912?

Yeah 200-300 would be better IMO, if not more. One with good low impedance performance, too. Useful in all sorts of situations (different rooms/speakers) for a long time. Sort of eat the pain up front thing altho there are some good values out there....like the amps using Hypex modules from Buckeye Amps for example. OTOH its not particularly useful if you are happy with the current performance of the Denon in your room at the levels you listen at now; more power won't be particularly useful if so. Some do prefer better specs as was suggested but you also suggested money could be a concern.

Your Denon lacks pre-amplifier outputs (pre-outs) to connect to a power amp. Some avrs have this feature, some don't.

 

[Doodski]

@Forty six and two did I miss something? I have not seen what speakers you are going to use with this stuff.

 

[Forty six and two]

@Forty six and two did I miss something? I have not seen what speakers you are going to use with this stuff.

I recently sold my triangle br 08s. Looking into mission audio or b&w bookshelves. Any budget recommendations? Airy musical sound is my preference. Warm is ok as long as its musical mot flat

 

[Forty six and two]

Yeah 200-300 would be better IMO, if not more. One with good low impedance performance, too. Useful in all sorts of situations (different rooms/speakers) for a long time. Sort of eat the pain up front thing altho there are some good values out there....like the amps using Hypex modules from Buckeye Amps for example. OTOH its not particularly useful if you are happy with the current performance of the Denon in your room at the levels you listen at now; more power won't be particularly useful if so. Some do prefer better specs as was suggested but you also suggested money could be a concern.

Your Denon lacks pre-amplifier outputs (pre-outs) to connect to a power amp. Some avrs have this feature, some don't.

Thanks for the info will look into it

 

[Doodski]

I recently sold my triangle br 08s. Looking into mission audio or b&w bookshelves. Any budget recommendations? Airy musical sound is my preference. Warm is ok as long as its musical mot flat

Speakers are a personal choice but if you get something with pretty flat frequency response and good dispersion they will be very EQ/PEQ friendly. PEQ is your friend and all audio systems should use PEQ. You can implement PEQ in the PC before the DAC. I made the EQ/PEQ ASR web page and I am a strong proponent of using PEQ. You should choose your speakers before purchasing an amplifier because the speakers will determine the power requirements or you can go all in and buy a monster amp and then get something totally overkill.

EQ Software for Windows, Linux, macOS, iOS/iPadOS and Android.

Any suggestions are welcome. Post suggestions here. I will gather the details and add them. Thanks. :D This will be organized as results come in. @sweetchaos made a guide for PEQ filter data input and operation. For crossover software go here. Windows: AutoEQ four easy steps to make your...

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[Forty six and two]

Speakers are a personal choice but if you get something with pretty flat frequency response and good dispersion they will be very EQ/PEQ friendly. PEQ is your friend and all audio systems should use PEQ. You can implement PEQ in the PC before the DAC. I made the EQ/PEQ ASR web page and I am a strong proponent of using PEQ. You should choose your speakers before purchasing an amplifier because the speakers will determine the power requirements or you can go all in and buy a monster amp and then get something totally overkill.

EQ Software for Windows, Linux, macOS, iOS/iPadOS and Android.

Any suggestions are welcome. Post suggestions here. I will gather the details and add them. Thanks. :D This will be organized as results come in. @sweetchaos made a guide for PEQ filter data input and operation. For crossover software go here. Windows: AutoEQ four easy steps to make your...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Ohk yes got your point

 

[Forty six and two]

Yeah 200-300 would be better IMO, if not more. One with good low impedance performance, too. Useful in all sorts of situations (different rooms/speakers) for a long time. Sort of eat the pain up front thing altho there are some good values out there....like the amps using Hypex modules from Buckeye Amps for example. OTOH its not particularly useful if you are happy with the current performance of the Denon in your room at the levels you listen at now; more power won't be particularly useful if so. Some do prefer better specs as was suggested but you also suggested money could be a concern.

Your Denon lacks pre-amplifier outputs (pre-outs) to connect to a power amp. Some avrs have this feature, some don't.

These buckeyes are they class a/b?

 

[Forty six and two]

Speakers are a personal choice but if you get something with pretty flat frequency response and good dispersion they will be very EQ/PEQ friendly. PEQ is your friend and all audio systems should use PEQ. You can implement PEQ in the PC before the DAC. I made the EQ/PEQ ASR web page and I am a strong proponent of using PEQ. You should choose your speakers before purchasing an amplifier because the speakers will determine the power requirements or you can go all in and buy a monster amp and then get something totally overkill.

EQ Software for Windows, Linux, macOS, iOS/iPadOS and Android.

Any suggestions are welcome. Post suggestions here. I will gather the details and add them. Thanks. :D This will be organized as results come in. @sweetchaos made a guide for PEQ filter data input and operation. For crossover software go here. Windows: AutoEQ four easy steps to make your...

www.audiosciencereview.com

So what does peq do and how it can help in two channel audio?

 

[Forty six and two]

flat frequency response and good dispersion

any recommendations? Budget is 2000

 

[Doodski]

So what does peq do and how it can help in two channel audio?

PEQ is parametric equalization or some people just use EQ as in equalizer. PEQ is a more accurate and more flexible method of adjusting the frequency response of your audio system. PEQ can be a 1 band, 5 band, 7 band, 10 band, 13 band, 15 band, 20 band etc. There are a bunch of different PEQs available and for most people's use a 10 to 14 band is good enough but more can be better if not very technical if used very technically. I use this PEACE PEQ. It is based on EQ APO a PEQ software and then a skin is applied called Peace EQ and this also adds a bunch of features and capabilities and gives a graphic representation which for me is my favorite type of operation for PEQ software. At the left is the bass controls and as one moves to the sliders toward the right side the adjustment frequency increases. The full hearing range is adjusted with sliders and by setting the, "Q." I have shown all 3 windows in the Peace PEQ software which is free to use but near everyday you will only use the graphic PEQ page which is the first image. It's easy to use and one only needs to start sliding the sliders up and down and things make sense pretty fast. It's very intuitive.

 

[Doodski]

any recommendations? Budget is 2000

That is a very very big question. There are so many options. It comes down to what is actually available for purchase. Sometimes there is a cool model but finding a demo or finding one to buy might be troublesome. So keep in mind that you want to shop for stuff you can get in your local or by online ordering. I am partial to KEF because I have a ~24 year history with the company in both the sales of the product and then when I became a technician I serviced KEF speakers as a warranty depot. But there are many good models out there. Shop for warranty, service support and integrity of product as well as sound quality. When shopping look to ASR test reviews for frequency response graphs, dispersion graphs and other useful information that will indicate if the product has been engineered well. Then when you get it in your home PEQ it and make it sound the best to your ears. Some speakers are colored intentionally by the manufacturer so that they sound more crispy, sharp or more bass in the showroom to lure customers to that product. The good stuff has flat frequency response and does not color the sound so that they are very PEQ friendly and adaptable.

 

[Doodski]

These buckeyes are they class a/b?

Buckeye Amps are class D. This class has been around in various models for decades and has done well. In recent years it has become a go to class for efficiency, cooler operating and high power output in a smaller package. Everything Buckeye Amps sells is class D and is pretty powerful. Some are small monster amps with huge amounts of power output.

Buckeye Amps

Buckeye Amps utilizes the most advanced audio amplifier technologies available. Authorized seller for Hypex and Purifi Class D amplifiers. Based in the US. Free shipping and worldwide service!

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[DavidMcRoy]

I use an AVR strictly as a "side chain" Dolby Digital processor in an Atmos system, out of the signal path of my main front left/right channels for 2-channel stereo sources. The front L/R Pre-Outs on ther AVR are a "stereo analog source" on an outboard "passive" analog stereo selector/volume control, aka "Stereo Preamplifier" in this description of the signal paths:

Optical Sources > Optical Switcher > DAC
Digital Coax Sources>Coax Switcher>DAC

DAC>Analog Input "1" on Stereo Preamplifier>Power Amplifier>Left/Right Front Speakers and Left/Right Subwoofers

AVR Pre-Out Front Left/Right>Analog Input "2" on Stereo Preamplifier

AVR Surround Out>Surround Speakers

The Stereo Preamplifier's volume control must be preset to match Surround levels when using the AVR, which can be seen as "outboard" of the main front L/R stereo system, only active when the surround system is in use. In this configuration, the AVR's volume control is used. When only using the front stereo channels, the external Stereo Preamplifier volume control may be adjusted as required for just the front channels and stereo subwoofers.

 

[Chrispy]

These buckeyes are they class a/b?

Hypex modules are class D modules. Class makes little difference as long as design/use fits your needs.

 

[Chrispy]

any recommendations? Budget is 2000

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[Forty six and two]

any recommendations? Budget is 2000

still what will be your recommendations in terms of brands? I like soft musical sound.
And i mostly listen to rock and metal