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A bit of experience and you suddently realize that people don't enjoy speakers with no bassLS50s measure really well, so you'd expect people to enjoy them
A bit of experience and you suddently realize that people don't enjoy speakers with no bassLS50s measure really well, so you'd expect people to enjoy them
Maybe because some people actually like Klipsch sound?why would you buy that
I see this speaker still in stock in many places. Just... why would you buy that when you can just grab another better speaker for the money? I would understand it if this speaker had nostalgia value, but it's just a still availablemediocregood enough everyday speaker.
KEF Q350 comes to mind, but it has quite a bit of energy 150~600Hz (and distortion). Much better polars though.I would be interested to hear which passive speakers on this forum measured better than this at the same price range.
KEF Q350 comes to mind, but it has quite a bit of energy 150~600Hz (and distortion). Much better polars though.
Or Monoprice THX-365IW, typical HT speaker though, so little output < 100 Hz. In contrast, it has much more distortion > 1 kHz
Measured elsewhere: Polk Audio Reserve R200.
There are a few more though:Not a big fan of either of these options to be honest. All of them are severely compromised one way or another.
Elac Debut ReferenceI would be interested to hear which passive speakers on this forum measured better than this at the same price range.
These are $700 plus tax. , I paid 300 plus 244 for kit. Have seen zero dbr62 reference on the used market. Trust me, I’ve looked.Elac Debut Reference
There are a few more though:
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you can get them dirt cheap on the used market. They are everywhere. Got mine for $300 over a year ago.I see this speaker still in stock in many places. Just... why would you buy that when you can just grab another better speaker for the money? I would understand it if this speaker had nostalgia value, but it's just a still availablemediocregood enough everyday speaker.
That is what I thought until I borrowed a pair. (Version 1)Looks like Klipsch do actually know what drivers they are working with and that dip is made for both "in-house sound" and avoiding that sawtooth-like upper midrange. I bet that latter can be worse to many ears as far as we - humans - get "calibrated" to frequency response, even pretty weird, in a few minutes. But not to resonances and distortion.
Anyway I wouldn't buy both for sure, stock or upgraded.
Reasons:I see this speaker still in stock in many places. Just... why would you buy that when you can just grab another better speaker for the money? I would understand it if this speaker had nostalgia value, but it's just a still availablemediocregood enough everyday speaker.
Well, at least here the upgrade isn't twice the cost of the speakers like with his SSCS5 upgrade?Nice improvements, though the kit costs almost as much as a pair of the speakers. I wonder if people wouldn’t be better served just by buying a better speaker in the first place.
I enjoyed the KEF Q350, it has much better bass in play than the testing suggests. Nice tonality with a very mellow trend. Most mellow KEF I have used.KEF Q350 comes to mind, but it has quite a bit of energy 150~600Hz (and distortion). Much better polars though.
Or Monoprice THX-365IW, typical HT speaker though, so little output < 100 Hz. In contrast, it has much more distortion > 1 kHz
Measured elsewhere: Polk Audio Reserve R200.
Revel M16.These are $700 plus tax. , I paid 300 plus 244 for kit. Have seen zero dbr62 reference on the used market. Trust me, I’ve looked.
Used RP600M with GR Kit $544
Reserve r200 $749 (never seen used) even more beaming than 600M
Selah DIY $630 starting if not more now with the pandemic for the kit without no MDF or flatpack
Q350 seen used for $700 in my area quite a bit of ringing from 500 to 1K, distortion is horrible when turned up starting at 100hz
Airmotive t2+ $1000 and is a tower
r100 $649 closer in price but quite a bit of distortion
Monolith 365IW In wall speaker?!?!?! really?
Revel m16 $1000
RP600m II $749
Lots of padding. GR has to recoup R&D and make a profit as a biz and they like to do this by padding the parts rather than selling just the crossover design.The next question is: could a much cheaper crossover kit (parts price wise) with no tubies and some cheaper filler in the cabinet do the same?
How much $$$ padding is GR-research doing here?
? You make it sound as though Klipsch themselves made this "fix" kit, which is obviously not the case.It was much better than this (unmodified) version and it is certainly good to see the company fix what they changed in the new version. I think Amir and everyone got it right in the old review and in those similar to it. The speaker was modified to stand out in show rooms. Once they were being sold at Best Buy along with all sorts of other speakers, getting it sold by any means was the goal. They know exactly what they are doing. Hopefully things are changing now. Seems that there was pressure, which shows sites like this are working.
Been dying to hear a pair of Revels!I enjoyed the KEF Q350, it has much better bass in play than the testing suggests. Nice tonality with a very mellow trend. Most mellow KEF I have used.
I thought the R200 was POS. Worst speaker I have tested over $300 maybe ever.
I personally can't stand that tweeter nor the horrible drop off in the off axis high frequency range that starts at 5k. No air, no vibrancy, no excitement. Oddly though well in the past in a different house I did kind of like the L200. Possible change in taste, possibly the change in rooms which are meaningfully different, maybe mine where defective but Polk suggested no. I will never know. I did not use the L200 very much, maybe an hour or two. I was just borrowing them for a day or so.
Revel M16.
Best speaker I have used that costs $1000 or less.
I vastly preferred to some strong competitors such as the KEF R3 amoung others. Note "vast" is becoming a rare term in my vocab as many things are close but like some others that Revel sound just got me. So good for the money.