Frankly, it's hell to choose an AVR

[TheGeeDawg]

I think the 3800 can too. At least I hope so. I ended up buying the 3800.

It cannot. It only has 1 trigger. 4800 has 3

 

[Godataloss]

It cannot. It only has 1 trigger. 4800 has 3

I see what you are saying. Not something I envision using, but I can see how that would be quite useful for some people.

 

[TheGeeDawg]

I see what you are saying. Not something I envision using, but I can see how that would be quite useful for some people.

Good luck with the 3800h. It is an incredible value!

 

[Godataloss]

Good luck with the 3800h. It is an incredible value!

Mu fears on this unit were unfounded. Setup and control are flexible, logical and quick. Haven't done any calibration save by ear and I'm loving it so far. Chimp Empire on Netflix is giving me the willies. Looking for suggestions on height channel speakers. Think I'm gonna need a baller center channel too. It's always been an after thought in my past setups.

 

[TheFiend1]

I think the Denon 3800 getting Dirac bass control in the near future and having 4 independent subwoofer outputs makes it the most competitive product hands down this year.

I would not know why anyone would buy anything else.

I mean feature wise - cool.

That last sentence though I disagree with. In my at home tests, I did not like the sound I had gotten from the Denon AVR and I had the same experience at the demo room. I was coming from a high end Pioneer Elite that I had for 12 years so I was used to their sound. I tested Pioneer, Denon, Marantz and Arcam and ended up not liking Marantz the most, then Denon (sound wise). :insert shrug emoji:

Sometimes its not just about features but the overall package.

 

[srrxr71]

The 4800h can independently turn on seperate amplifiers based on input. Example: For inputs used for music my 4500h is set to only trigger my front stage amplifier. For video inputs I trigger all amplifiers. This is useful if you care about wasting energy and leaving your unused amplifier running.

You mean the internal amps?

 

[Godataloss]

I mean feature wise - cool.

That last sentence though I disagree with. In my at home tests, I did not like the sound I had gotten from the Denon AVR and I had the same experience at the demo room. I was coming from a high end Pioneer Elite that I had for 12 years so I was used to their sound. I tested Pioneer, Denon, Marantz and Arcam and ended up not liking Marantz the most, then Denon (sound wise). :insert shrug emoji:

Sometimes its not just about features but the overall package.

Having lived with the 3800 for a couple months now, I can confidently say it doesn't have any 'sound signature'. What you are hearing is most likely setup/EQ differences. The 3800 is quite flexible and I'm pleased enough with the sound that I'm questioning whether I'll pony up for Dirac now that it is available. The available surround mixes are so variable in my experience, each show/movie requires MASSIVE adjustment of levels.

 

[TheGeeDawg]

You mean the internal amps?

No. Triggers anre for external amps.

 

[srrxr71]

No. Triggers anre for external amps.

I see. One trigger should be enough right?

 

[FrantzM]

I mean feature wise - cool.

That last sentence though I disagree with. In my at home tests, I did not like the sound I had gotten from the Denon AVR and I had the same experience at the demo room. I was coming from a high end Pioneer Elite that I had for 12 years so I was used to their sound. I tested Pioneer, Denon, Marantz and Arcam and ended up not liking Marantz the most, then Denon (sound wise). :insert shrug emoji:

Sometimes its not just about features but the overall package.

Did you compare those various AVRs with the level matched? to 1 dB at least? .1 dB would have been ideal but is dfficuolt to achieve

The Denon AVR-X3800 is a most interesting features-laden, package.

Happy holidays!

Peace.

 

[TheGeeDawg]

I see. One trigger should be enough right?

If you only have 1 amp or you always run all amps then one trigger is fine. Like I said earlier. If you have multiple amps then multiple triggers are very useful when there is no need for a particular amp.
In my case I have one amp for my Front speakers and another for the center and surrounds.
When I am listening 2 2 channel music I only trigger the amp for the front speakers. If I’m watching a movie I trigger both amps. I basically saves wasting energy by having an amp turned on when not in use.

 

[srrxr71]

If you only have 1 amp or you always run all amps then one trigger is fine. Like I said earlier. If you have multiple amps then multiple triggers are very useful when there is no need for a particular amp.
In my case I have one amp for my Front speakers and another for the center and surrounds.
When I am listening 2 2 channel music I only trigger the amp for the front speakers. If I’m watching a movie I trigger both amps. I basically saves wasting energy by having an amp turned on when not in use.

Oh I see. So you don’t use any of the internal amps? I always assumed the trigger is for when you need to use surround channels which the receiver can decode but does not have internal amps for.

 

[-Matt-]

Anyone else keeping an eye on CES, hopeful that new AVR release dates will be announced? (Thinking of the Denon X6800 in particular). Any predictions regarding this?

 

[-Matt-]

I was right!

Perhaps use this other thread to discuss 6800 related news in particular:
Denon AVR-X6800H now released

 

[valerianf]

I have to replace a Yamaha RX A700 that I am using for music and HT.
After years of investigation it seems to me that the Onkyo RZ70 is the good choice.
it has Dirac that can be customized and also a powerful amp section.
I am waiting for @amirm to test it but time is passing and nothing is popping up.

 

[Rednaxela]

I am waiting for @amirm to test it but time is passing and nothing is popping up.

You mean you sent one in but he hasn’t gotten around to testing it?

 

[valerianf]

No @Rednaxela , I am waiting for Amir test to push the trigger to order a RZ70.

 

[Rednaxela]

Did someone else send one in then?

I don’t understand.

 

[Rednaxela]

I mean without anyone sending one in you can wait forever.