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Denon AVR-X6800H now released.

Oddball said:
Your Denon should recognise the signal characteristics and default to the last mode you used for that type of signal. So once you set up your preferences (which is needed), it should default to those. If not, then you need to troubleshoot...
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That would be great. But I'm not seeing anything in the manual about preference settings for each type of signal.

AVR-X6800H

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Should be somewhere in the options menu or just going through available options when the signal you want to set is present. Not something you can set from web interface. Sorry but my systems all set so really use only web interface and my memory is mostly short term.
 
KenMasters said:
As Newman outlined, I connect the pre-outs to external amplifiers and set the X6800 to "Pre-Out Mode"



A question for you, why do you use eARC, why not connect all your devices directly to the Denon?
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Perhaps I explained that poorly. I presumed it was all considered eArc today. My current setup is one cable to the TV, everything else hdmi plugged directly into the X1400H.

I had an older B7 oled 65inch and just got the G3 oled 77 inch. Have the Apple TV 4K device, LG UP970 4K disc player, and a PS5.

I purchased this new X6800H basically to ‘match’ the tech of my new TV, to get 4K 120hz from my PS5, as well as VRR support. Is it overkill for my basic 7.1 setup? Probably. The plan now that I’m ’future proof’ for the next 5-10 years is to invest in some speakers and a new sub. Probably in the $3,000 range for a new 7.1 setup.

My new X6800H is still in the box. My X1400H is perfectly calibrated to my liking and I sort of dread having to re-wire and recalibrate the new AVR. Plus even with the ‘deal, I still did spend $2500 and most likely only gaining 4K/120hz/VRR for the time being.
 
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dave999z said:
If the incoming signal is DD, how does Direct sound mode differ from DD sound mode?
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Under "Direct Sound", a DD 5.1 track would output as 5.1 and a DD 2.0 track would only go to 2 speakers.
Under the default surround modes, it would upmix/downmix based on what you selected according to that page in the manual in the link I provided.
 
shinseiRomeo said:
My new X6800H is still in the box. My X1400H is perfectly calibrated to my liking and I sort of dread having to re-wire and recalibrate the new AVR. Plus even with the ‘deal, I still did spend $2500 and most likely only gaining 4K/120hz/VRR for the time being.
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The big advantage with the X6700H is MultEQ-X, if you're willing to pay a bit extra for the functionality. Very powerful and easy to use calibration tool - you'll be able to achieve much better results with that than you could with what the X1400H offers.

If you're happy with the X1400H settings, you can also just take snaps of the speaker setup screens and transfer those over to the X6800H manually, through the web app or MQX.
 
Do a complete, new setup with your X6800H. You will be blown away by the difference.
Also, the setup process is quite easy, only take care to do the Audessey calibration exactly as the manual says. It has to be silent in the room and you should not stand in the microfones way. Take a seat away from mic and speaker during setup, a back wall seems best.
 
KenMasters said:
The big advantage with the X6700H is MultEQ-X, if you're willing to pay a bit extra for the functionality. Very powerful and easy to use calibration tool - you'll be able to achieve much better results with that than you could with what the X1400H offers.

If you're happy with the X1400H settings, you can also just take snaps of the speaker setup screens and transfer those over to the X6800H manually, through the web app or MQX.
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I’d definitely start from the beginning if I’m keeping this X6800H! With my X1400H, I calibrated it with the included Audyssey microphone. I planed to do the same with the X6800H.

I have read about Dirac, and I’m not at all familiar with the MultEQ-X. These cost extra to do from what I read though I don’t understand how those work at all.


Wolf11Man said:
Do a complete, new setup with your X6800H. You will be blown away by the difference.
Also, the setup process is quite easy, only take care to do the Audessey calibration exactly as the manual says. It has to be silent in the room and you should not stand in the microfones way. Take a seat away from mic and speaker during setup, a back wall seems best.
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Is there a simple way to explain how the difference can be so extreme coming from a similar yet lower end AVR? I really just have basic speakers from onkyo, nothing high end. Will the new X6800H deliver more power, or is it truer that the speakers are what drives the sound, not the amp?
 
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shinseiRomeo said:
I’d definitely start from the beginning if I’m keeping this X6800H! With my X1400H, I calibrated it with the included Audyssey microphone. I planed to do the same with the X6800H.

I have read about Dirac, and I’m not at all familiar with the MultEQ-X. These cost extra to do from what I read though I don’t understand how those work at all.





Is there a simple way to explain how the difference can be so extreme coming from a similar yet lower end AVR? I really just have basic speakers from onkyo, nothing high end. Will the new X6800H deliver more power, or is it truer that the speakers are what drives the sound, not the amp?
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I am wondering too, in my own experience (mine is X1800H that should be similar to the X1400H except it has more up to date features and the DAC IC is not as good as the X1400H's AK4458), this lower end AVR sounds just as good as any other higher models I have had. In theory, if don't need the higher power output, you are not going to hear dramatic difference in sound quality. Wolf11Man seems to be talking about the effects of Audyssey calibration, that if you use Mult EQ X, you likely will be able to get smoother and deeper bass response and that certainly could result in very audible difference, whether the difference is "extreme", or be "blow away" would likely depend on your own preference and perception, what might be blow away to some, may not be to you, could even be just subtle to you depending on many other factors. That's just me, and again, based on my own experience only.
 
Speaker have the biggest impact on the SQ. When you hit a certain price amplifiers make very small difference's.
 
peng said:
I am wondering too, in my own experience (mine is X1800H that should be similar to the X1400H except it has more up to date features and the DAC IC is not as good as the X1400H's AK4458), this lower end AVR sounds just as good as any other higher models I have had. In theory, if don't need the higher power output, you are not going to hear dramatic difference in sound quality. Wolf11Man seems to be talking about the effects of Audyssey calibration, that if you use Mult EQ X, you likely will be able to get smoother and deeper bass response and that certainly could result in very audible difference, whether the difference is "extreme", or be "blow away" would likely depend on your own preference and perception, what might be blow away to some, may not be to you, could even be just subtle to you depending on many other factors. That's just me, and again, based on my own experience only.
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Speaking for myself, I was referring to the flexibility of MultEQ-X, which allows for a great deal of flexibility beyond the standard app (including bypassing auto-EQ entirely in favour of manual EQ).
 
KenMasters said:
Speaking for myself, I was referring to the flexibility of MultEQ-X, which allows for a great deal of flexibility beyond the standard app (including bypassing auto-EQ entirely in favour of manual EQ).
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I agree, Audyssey XT32 SubEQ are the same for models that have them, the difference between the $200 app and the $20 app is of course in terms of flexibility/ease of use, that means it would be easier to obtain smoother bass response with Mult EQ X. However, in terms of flexibility, Mult EQ X does not allow independent tweaks to the left and right channels. The $20 app, if used with free ware such as Ratbuddyssey, you can adjust the left and right channels independently, so if one has tons of time to tweak, the $20 app could do better in that sense. I haven't tried OCA's Audyssey One/EVO yet, it likely could do the left right independently too but I am not 100% sure.
 
peng said:
However, in terms of flexibility, Mult EQ X does not allow independent tweaks to the left and right channels.
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It does, you can individually tweak all channels:

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There is a box on top of filter screen that needs to be checked “adjust individual channels” or something similar. That unlocks curves for all channels, not just pairs.
 
peng said:
Thanks, so I guess they updated it. At launch time it was adustable (target curve) in channel pairs only, just like Dira Live’s.
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For interest's sake, these are the options available under the Biquad/Parametric filter tab:

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Worth plugging Audyssey One Evo, a simple enough script that lets Audyssey based setups (particularly XT32) sound better than they have any right to. I've not compared to Dirac, but the reception has been overwhelmingly positive in their AVS forum thread.

Just need the $20 phone app, REW (free), and a couple minutes of your time.
 
masterhw said:
Worth plugging Audyssey One Evo, a simple enough script that lets Audyssey based setups (particularly XT32) sound better than they have any right to. I've not compared to Dirac, but the reception has been overwhelmingly positive in their AVS forum thread.

Just need the $20 phone app, REW (free), and a couple minutes of your time.
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I've experimented with it but not had great results on the EQ and crossover settings side. I do use the distances it set though. My setup is unusual in that I prefer a 150Hz crossover and my subs set to stereo bass, which might be why it doesn't work so well for me.
 
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