Denon AVR-X4800H AVR Review

[David_Alexander]

How many voters in this poll actually have a X4800H?

Just wondering where these votes are coming from in the poll?

 

[Joffy1780]

Sorry, forgot to pay attention to the rest of the settings. Should be some place in the manual....

Sorry, I appreciate this is not part of your review process.
I had a look through the manual but couldn't seem to find it, but I should maybe have asked an owner directly.

 

[Joffy1780]

How many voters in this poll actually have a X4800H?

Just wondering where these votes are coming from in the poll?

Surely you don't think the only votes in these polls come from owners?

 

[David_Alexander]

Surely you don't think the only votes in these polls come from owners?

Are the rest sheep?

 

[peng]

Sorry, I appreciate this is not part of your review process.
I had a look through the manual but couldn't seem to find it, but I should maybe have asked an owner directly.

Yes you can set the center channel to pre out as well. It was mentioned in one of those Masimo video.

 

[Sancus]

How many voters in this poll actually have a X4800H?

Just wondering where these votes are coming from in the poll?

What does being an owner have to do with anything? The polls are to show how readers interpret the review's measurements, and whether or not they agree with Amir's interpretation. That's it.

 

[Joffy1780]

Are the rest sheep?

No, they're basing their vote on the measured performance, as per just about every other review on the site.

 

[diddley]

Thank you Amir for a great anticipated review.I am still happy with my 3600 allthough those are different beasts

 

[David_Alexander]

My mistake. Maybe it’s just rate this avr on the above test. Which is ok. Bit cultish though.

 

[RF Air]

How many voters in this poll actually have a X4800H?

Just wondering where these votes are coming from in the poll?

I have one, you just saw my test results, I have not voted yet.

 

[HarmonicTHD]

I did but using the new scheme where I change the volume control rather than digital level.

Alright. Thanks. No 1.4V SINAD kink. Good. But SINAD seems to flatten at around 2V. Any idea when it starts to drop / clip?

 

[Joffy1780]

My mistake. Maybe it’s just rate this avr on the above test. Which is ok. Bit cultish though.

Welcome to the forum. As long as you don't drink the Kool-aid you'll be fine.

 

[David_Alexander]

No, they're basing their vote on the measured performance, as per just about every other review on the site.

I have one, you just saw my test results, I have not voted yet.

I too have this model, and have been invested in the review by Amir. But I’m not going to pile in on a review by Amir to either support or denigrate a product just by a review. That’s the behaviour of a herd.

 

[David_Alexander]

Welcome to the forum. As long as you don't drink the Kool-aid you'll be fine.

I know, deep breath in....and out. I’m cool.

 

[enricoclaudio]

Brilliant review, as always.
Regards the 'per pair' disabling of amps, how does the centre channel fit into this?

Here you go!!

 

[Chrispy]

My mistake. Maybe it’s just rate this avr on the above test. Which is ok. Bit cultish though.

Whut? Why would any one rate a review/measurement thread Amir does based on anything else? I'm betting you are far more cultish with audio, tho.

 

[amirm]

Alright. Thanks. No 1.4V SINAD kink. Good. But SINAD seems to flatten at around 2V. Any idea when it starts to drop / clip?

I don't think it is right to push devices with RCA out at higher than 2 volts. Seeing how the amp is off though I suspect it will keep going.

 

[Sancus]

I am going to put the Denon AVR-X4800H on my recommended list.

So, people should use their brains and understand the review rather than thinking "recommend good, not recommended bad". This post IS NOT a criticism of the recommendation.

That said, I do feel like it's important to note that the amplifier performance of the 4800H is not that much different than the 3800H. The HDMI-in amplifier SINAD is ~84.5dB(3800) vs ~86dB(4800).

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SNR for the 3800H is actually better than the 4800H. (not clear if this is a valid comparison due to ground loop?)

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The power difference is minimal with the 3800H at 114W(8 ohm), 135W(4 ohm) both channels driven, and the 4800H at 134W & 175W respectively. This is only about 30% more, which might get you 1dB of extra output?

So, while the DAC SINAD on the 4800H is surprisingly improved a decent amount at 95dB vs 87dB, considering this is distortion-dominated SINAD I can't see how it would be a good choice for anyone who was considering the 3800H to run out and pay the premium for the 4800H.

 

[GD Fan]

I too have this model, and have been invested in the review by Amir. But I’m not going to pile in on a review by Amir to either support or denigrate a product just by a review. That’s the behaviour of a herd.

Only a herd if we all vote the same, no?

Perhaps you'd prefer we vote based on how we 'feel' when we listen to it?

 

[Chrispy]

I don't think it is right to push devices with RCA out at higher than 2 volts. Seeing how the amp is off though I suspect it will keep going.

Why particularly on the rca out being more than 2V?