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Impressive.... 0.0003 @ 20W.... should be a jewel @5W
Don't buy the PA3S )

It is probably based on the new Merus chip )

If it based on this chip, with this level of performance on the graph there, it is not very impressive: THD+N 0.014% SINAD 77 at the standard 5W 4R.

But the measurement preview above is better than this datasheet measurement. So either they are using other chip or in house design, or they did improve the chip spec somehow? Let's wait and see.
 

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Is there also a measurement of frequency response as a function of various loads, like 4ohm, 8ohm and speaker dummy load, rather than this pointless SINAD? FR variations are audible, 1kHz SINAD tells almost nothing.
Will probably come, it's just a very first sneak peek I guess.
 

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Is there also a measurement of frequency response as a function of various loads, like 4ohm, 8ohm and speaker dummy load, rather than this pointless SINAD? FR variations are audible, 1kHz SINAD tells almost nothing.
And 109 dB SNR at 20W 8 Ohm means 45 uV noise floor. Good but not impressive.
 
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Topping PA5 is now out, measurements

Please add it to the list ))))

 
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Topping PA5 is now out, measurements

Please add it to the list ))))

Damn impressive! :oops:
Added to the list.

And this shows it is a modern class D design, with all frequencies having low THD+N, not rising to the treble.

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That is impressive....would love to see Amir measure it! :)


Simply true ! Check measurements @ 8R and 4R.
The test is even taken to its paroxysm, we have measurements @ 5W / 10W / 20W / 40W etc

If I am not wrong it is using the MA5332MS new Merus chip It would be logical in the continuity of PA3S )
Your opinion guys ?
 
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Simply true ! Check measurements @ 8R and 4R.
The test is even taken to its paroxysm, we have measurements @ 5W / 10W / 20W / 40W etc

If I am not wrong it is using the MA5332MS new Merus chip It would be logical in the continuity of PA3S )
Your opinion guys ?
@JohnYang1997 could you please tell us more about it? Congrats btw.
 

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@JohnYang1997 could you please tell us more about it? Congrats btw.

I wish I could ) But you will know before me soon.... stay connected )
It's going to be a hell of a competition for the new Allo TPA3255 !
 

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Hi,

New amp to add to the list, not the best for sure )


MoxAudio XGF-003 PowerAmp
Class B fully balanced amplifier

Measurements :




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Hi,

New amp to add to the list, not the best for sure )


MoxAudio XGF-003 PowerAmp
Class B fully balanced amplifier

Measurements :


At 69db, I just wonder which side of the Sinad chart you want to highlight :rolleyes:
 
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Hi,

New amp to add to the list, not the best for sure )


MoxAudio XGF-003 PowerAmp
Class B fully balanced amplifier

Measurements :




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Hb645080f8b404927be9d9582d45e9e9b3.jpg
I cannot add it: there is no 4 ohms graph in there. Shame...
 

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This needs to be a sticky on the forum main page! Great work Matias! Only 10 pages on this thread which is great, less noise to sift through.

Two comments for you:
  • I like especially the tiers, the fact that you incorporated IMD into your judgement. I wish 32-tone IMD were presented in the tabular data so tiers could be constructed without regard to amplifier operation class.
  • Form factor is important. I only care about the top quartile, above 96dB SINAD. Will you add dimensions as 3 columns for those top 39 amps? I'm happy to do the data entry work if you'll take the list.
 
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Hi the tiers for class D are my interpretation and opinion indeed. As for measures, I am afraid it will make the table too large and intimidating, I tried to squeeze its width and graphs into a single 1080p screen.
 
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