AudioSceptic
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You can even buy fake Nordost >https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-nordost.html> I wonder if any of it measures any different to the real thing?There are plenty of cheap good looking cables on AliExpress.
You can even buy fake Nordost >https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-nordost.html> I wonder if any of it measures any different to the real thing?There are plenty of cheap good looking cables on AliExpress.
But a sticky thread with all cable tests so far would be more effective than keeping testing cables every other week.Think about all these passive "layman" readers out there. They can avoid considerable loss this way. Nobody is born with knowledge, and snake oil still sells. Repetitio est mater studiorum.
Probably, at least easier to find.But a sticky thread with all cable tests so far would be more effective than keeping testing cables every other week.
But the musicality of the cable wasn't measured?
I'm torn about this. I definitely want Amir to test other equipment, because cables are done deal. butBut a sticky thread with all cable tests so far would be more effective than keeping testing cables every other week.
I tend to believe that many of those highend audiophile USB cables (also coax, ethernet and others) wouldn't meet standard specificationsYou could. Just need $100,000 in digital scope and specialized probes! USB signals are quite fast. My 500 MHz scope can barely resolve it but results are just not presentable. S/PDIF is a walk in the park in comparison.
There is a company that makes a specialized test instrument to show the eye patter on USB and HDMI. I think it costs $14K. I don't think it is worth getting it but it is an option.
At one time, I'd have tried to explain how I see and 'feel' the 'musicality' side of sound perception in music (the other being pr@t). I simply can't be a*sed these days you lot will be pleased to knowI think it means, "they like it".
Progress!At one time, I'd have tried to explain how I see and 'feel' the 'musicality' side of sound perception in music (the other being pr@t). I simply can't be a*sed these days you lot will be pleased to know
HA!Progress!
Mocking? Mocking people is rude and not very gentleman. I don't think he was mocking anyone. Anyway. Not more to say about it.
I had my sense of humor surgically removed, for just that reason.Mocking? Mocking people is rude and not very gentleman. I don't think he was mocking anyone. Anyway. Not more to say about it.
I think a lot of people fall into that category. Talk of "Audiophile" cables and wires are everywhere on the internet and YouTube. There was a time would I would question "Are my cables or speaker wire hindering or degrading the signal?" Then I would go search and look at all these different cables and prices on-line. Fortunately I never pulled the trigger on an "exotic" cable, and usually it was because I would still ask myself that same question..Will this cable hinder or degrade my music signal in some way?I've never spent that much but for years I still had that doubt that there must be "something" in what they claim, even if I could never justify the cost. As a result I've got cables by Linn and QED which cost more than generic but still seemed reasonably priced.
I should have added, the cable I came across that I felt boosted the volume was a toslink cable. Switching between 2 of them one was obviously louder...though no measurement was done.I think a lot of people fall into that category. Talk of "Audiophile" cables and wires are everywhere on the internet and YouTube. There was a time would I would question "Are my cables or speaker wire hindering or degrading the signal?" Then I would go search and look at all these different cables and prices on-line. Fortunately I never pulled the trigger on an "exotic" cable, and usually it was because I would still ask myself that same question..Will this cable hinder or degrade my music signal in some way?
Luckily I came across this ASR site a few years back, it put this cable nonsense behind me, I don't even think about them anymore. I personally have never heard a difference between 2 cables that I can be 100% sure of. I have encountered cables that boosted the output of the signal, but a difference in quality I'm not too sure of. The only phenomenon I've encountered was using a shielded cable that actually reduced some interference I was getting from somewhere. The most expensive cables I've ever used were in the $30-$40 range, Worlds Best Cables off Amazon. These might be considered expensive to some people, but these are my cables of choice..they look good to me and seem well built. I also have a $100 pair of speaker wires made by Elac...I had a $100 owed to me from Crutchfield, a couple months went by and I never found anything to use it on so I went all out and splurged on some $100 wires lol. But I will say, the connectors, gauge and material of the jacket on these 15 foot cords made me feel like they were worth the money.
One more thing I will add, ASR has saved me a lot of money over the years that I would have otherwise spent on snake-oil or poorly engineered products. I also don't knock or look down on people that have the money to spend on these high priced cables..whatever makes someone happy can almost be labeled as priceless, but I confidently don't feel like I'm missing anything just because I can't afford or choose not to spend big money on cables. My signal from point A to B is just fine.
As a joke it makes sense but I read it again and it didn't seem like he was mocking. Anyway, doesn't really matter.It was a joke. A usb cable cant make things louder or less loud. Its inherently not possible. A usb cable gives numbers to a dac, and to make things louder or less loud you have to substract or add numbers. And this is a very, very hard task for cables. Usually Amir does not jokes like this. I had to read again.
As a joke it makes sense but I read it again and it didn't seem like he was mocking. Anyway, doesn't really matter.
I'm torn about this. I definitely want Amir to test other equipment, because cables are done deal. but
- this thread will land quite high on Google search, leading more people here. so there are chances that some will no buy this and wasted 990$
- testing cables seem to be a quick job for Amir. He probably can do it his eyes closed. If he does not mind it, why do we?
Sure no one is putting a gun to their head, yet I don't think a lot of the people are exactly buying these 'voluntarily'.No one forces anyone to buy this stuff; it's amazing what people will do voluntarily.