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I have several speaker cables and they all sound quite different.
I had someone change the cables without my seeing and I heard the difference every time.
The thing is, I just found Amir's videos on youtube and agreed with much of what he said. Certainly the scientific approach appeals to me. I think his approach is fantastic and provides a great service to the audiophile/music-listening community.
I can't stand the exorbitant prices of much of the audio gear out there. Insane markups and little value-for-dollar, exaggerated claims, etc.
All that said, I still hear differences when I change cables.
So I'd like to learn why and I am tired of hearing about placebo effect.
I did an actual blind test. And then I conducted one with someone else who is not an audiophile and she heard a difference every time.
So what is happening?
Is it simply the different gauges? Shielding or lack thereof?
Wire length? We kept them all to ten feet. I was expecting the big thick, heavy gauge cable to be the ones I would prefer.
It was not the case. I preferred the 16 gauge every time.
Differences in soundstage, separation, imaging, depth, coherence, etc., were all audible.
I find most channels on youtube to be a lot of nonsense. I found audiosciencereview on youtube and it immediately became my favorite channel.
The logic is there.
But how does one reconcile this with actual user-end experience?
I dig what Amir talks about, but I just can't discount my ears.
My ears are what got me into audio as a child and all I care about is what sounds good to me.
I don't care about price, I care about sound quality and value.
I've spent time listening to $85,000 speakers and $300 speakers and everything in between.
I've heard average stuff at $20k and fantastic equipment at $3500, like my speakers.
So I just wanted to hear some opinions on this and see if anyone out there is in my situation where you know much of the stuff out there is snake oil, but you also KNOW you are hearing a difference between cables.
Whether or not the signal is different is a different conversation.
But clearly something is different between the cables.
And interestingly, my favorite cables every time are the second cheapest.
The ones for $500(which I know is cheap these days for speaker wire), were my least favorite. I thought they were terrible and I was able to hear them every time.
I left those cables in as an additional test. The most expensive ones. The ones I WANTED TO LIKE. The ones I expected to be "the best." And within a few days, I went from listening to music 24/7, to my speakers not having been turned on for two weeks.
I put the other cables back in and I couldn't stop listening.
Just wanted to hear some thoughts.
I've have been listening to high-end audio for over 27 years. Not a newbie.
Thank you very much for reading.
I have several speaker cables and they all sound quite different.
I had someone change the cables without my seeing and I heard the difference every time.
The thing is, I just found Amir's videos on youtube and agreed with much of what he said. Certainly the scientific approach appeals to me. I think his approach is fantastic and provides a great service to the audiophile/music-listening community.
I can't stand the exorbitant prices of much of the audio gear out there. Insane markups and little value-for-dollar, exaggerated claims, etc.
All that said, I still hear differences when I change cables.
So I'd like to learn why and I am tired of hearing about placebo effect.
I did an actual blind test. And then I conducted one with someone else who is not an audiophile and she heard a difference every time.
So what is happening?
Is it simply the different gauges? Shielding or lack thereof?
Wire length? We kept them all to ten feet. I was expecting the big thick, heavy gauge cable to be the ones I would prefer.
It was not the case. I preferred the 16 gauge every time.
Differences in soundstage, separation, imaging, depth, coherence, etc., were all audible.
I find most channels on youtube to be a lot of nonsense. I found audiosciencereview on youtube and it immediately became my favorite channel.
The logic is there.
But how does one reconcile this with actual user-end experience?
I dig what Amir talks about, but I just can't discount my ears.
My ears are what got me into audio as a child and all I care about is what sounds good to me.
I don't care about price, I care about sound quality and value.
I've spent time listening to $85,000 speakers and $300 speakers and everything in between.
I've heard average stuff at $20k and fantastic equipment at $3500, like my speakers.
So I just wanted to hear some opinions on this and see if anyone out there is in my situation where you know much of the stuff out there is snake oil, but you also KNOW you are hearing a difference between cables.
Whether or not the signal is different is a different conversation.
But clearly something is different between the cables.
And interestingly, my favorite cables every time are the second cheapest.
The ones for $500(which I know is cheap these days for speaker wire), were my least favorite. I thought they were terrible and I was able to hear them every time.
I left those cables in as an additional test. The most expensive ones. The ones I WANTED TO LIKE. The ones I expected to be "the best." And within a few days, I went from listening to music 24/7, to my speakers not having been turned on for two weeks.
I put the other cables back in and I couldn't stop listening.
Just wanted to hear some thoughts.
I've have been listening to high-end audio for over 27 years. Not a newbie.
Thank you very much for reading.