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WiiM Ultra

Hummm, I’m hesitating between WiiM Pro Plus and Ultra. Is true that I never use Apple Music, do you know if other platforms may be played with the WiiM app independently? For example Qobuz
All WiiM devices have native Qobuz support, and all but the mini can be chromecasted to from the Qobuz app itself. WiiM devices also support Tidal, Amazon Music and Deezer inter alia
 
I don’t understand why WiiM Ultra is not compatible with Airplay. Is a software question that will be solved on later firmware, a strategy decision?
Here is the one and only official statement on AirPlay and the WiiM Ultra:

In addition I can confirm that technically the Ultra is technically capable of acting as an AirPlay receiver. This feature has been available during early beta testing but had to be removed prior to general availability.
 
Are there any (audible) reasons to prefer the Ultra to the Pro Plus?

I will use it as a “classical” streamer setup: WiiM (Ultra or Pro) controlled by iPhone => RCA output => RCA input active monitors.
 
Are there any (audible) reasons to prefer the Ultra to the Pro Plus?

I will use it as a “classical” streamer setup: WiiM (Ultra or Pro) controlled by iPhone => RCA output => RCA input active monitors.
A different and (potentially) better DAC, reportedly higher grade OP amps.

I can't compare the two.
 
Are there any (audible) reasons to prefer the Ultra to the Pro Plus?

I will use it as a “classical” streamer setup: WiiM (Ultra or Pro) controlled by iPhone => RCA output => RCA input active monitors.
I doubt it, but we haven't seen the measurements yet to confirm. The Pro Plus should already be transparent, so nothing audible to improve on. I doubt they would make the Ultra worse. The choice is more about features and capabilities.
 
How would you set up the WiiM in a setup with a PC over USB and a DAC?

I have a Topping E50 DAC that can play all my local music bit-perfect over ASIO but I would like to be able to use the WiiM as well.

So far I see two options:


So either I do:
  1. A: PC > DAC > Streamer > Active Speakers
    • RCA to WiiM
    • RCA to Speakers
  2. B: Streamer + PC > DAC > Active Speakers
    • Toslink to DAC
    • RCA to Speakers
One advantage of using the WiiM in the middle is room correction of course but it would mean I have to turn on the device even when I am just watching Youtube.
Phono stage is another question of course. The ones built into the speaker are pretty good for a €500 pair but no idea how the WiiM sounds just yet.

Other devices potentially in the chain are:
  • Turntable (Active speakers or WiiM)
  • 4K Blu-ray player (Coax or HDMI)
  • CD player (Coax or TOSlink)
 
Get yourself a WiiM mini and connect it using optical out.
This is how I am doing it to overcome the Airplay issue with the Ultra.
With the Wiim software (though it could change), you can put the Wiim Mini in a separate room and link it to the Ultra in the Wiim app. It will allow you to Airplay to the Mini and share the stream to the Ultra.

Also, depending on how you have the Wiim setup, you may be able to get Airplay from a computer or TV (if your TV is Airplay compatible and are directly connected).

There are a lot of ways to get Airplay to a Wiim Ultra. I have an old AirPort Express connected to the optical input, but I have a few other ways to get Airplay to the Wiim outside of optical.

Chromecast usually won't work as a substitute for Airplay if you want to stream from iOS apps that do not have Casting available (which is most apps). You can cast from Apple Music's web app on a Mac via a Chrome browser, though.
 
Are there any (audible) reasons to prefer the Ultra to the Pro Plus?

I will use it as a “classical” streamer setup: WiiM (Ultra or Pro) controlled by iPhone => RCA output => RCA input active monitors.

I doubt if there any detectable differences in output.

Non audible reasons are HDMI ARC input, phono input, nice screen, rotary volume knob, built in headphone amp.
 
I doubt if there any detectable differences in output.

Non audible reasons are HDMI ARC input, phono input, nice screen, rotary volume knob, built in headphone amp.
Reading specs I perhaps add usb output to use an external DAC. Maybe interesting since my DAC has balanced XLR outputs.
 
Reading specs I perhaps add usb output to use an external DAC. Maybe interesting since my DAC has balanced XLR outputs.

I'm using the USB port for an SSD drive with my ripped CD collection.

The Wiim Ultra makes it available as a UPnP source. The one on the right is my Linux music server. I guess I could retire the Linux server.


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I'm using the USB port for an SSD drive with my ripped CD collection.

The Wiim Ultra makes it available as a UPnP source. The one on the right is my Linux music server. I guess I could retire the Linux server.


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Did you tried the usb as an audio output to a DAC? I red some contradictory comments about this function
 
Probably no need for an external DAC. The DAC in the Ultra is pretty good.

I use USB out to a Rasberry Pi for DSP and it is working great. I have had no issues whatsoever.
Is not for the DAC itself: my active monitors have balanced XLR inputs, and I don’t want to buy more cables, my actual DAC has also balanced outputs and only usb c digital input.

So my setup can has 2 possible ways:


1- Streamer => RCA to XLR cable => Active monitors.

2- Streamer => usb C cable => DAC => balanced XLR cable => Active monitors.

Any advice? Thanks!
 
You are just using the DAC for the rca->XLR conversion. I wouldn't bother unless you wanted other features out of the DAC.

And you would lose the PEQ features of the Wiim in #2
 
You are just using the DAC for the rca->XLR conversion. I wouldn't bother unless you wanted other features out of the DAC.

And you would lose the PEQ features of the Wiim in #2
Aha, thanks!

That is I red about, but didn’t remember well! So the PEQ feature doesn’t work with usb c output. I should imagine that the usb c transfers just the file as it is.

Is there no problem concerning RCA to XLR cables? I think not, but I’m not sure. It will be the same RCA to RCA respect to voltage and interferences compared to RCA to XLR?
 
Aha, thanks!

That is I red about, but didn’t remember well! So the PEQ feature doesn’t work with usb c output. I should imagine that the usb c transfers just the file as it is.

Is there no problem concerning RCA to XLR cables? I think not, but I’m not sure. It will be the same RCA to RCA respect to voltage and interferences compared to RCA to XLR?
No, the PEQ works with the USB (A) output. The USB output differs from the coax and optical outputs because it does not apply a high pass filter to the signal if you are using the subwoofer output.
 
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