VMV D1se2 Stereo DAC Review

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[JensenW]

I hear the same thing. Since I prefer the sound of no filter (aka NOS), I set the pre out to Variable -4dB, then set it to Fixed so it stays at -4. No more clipping into the amp.

Also, for those wondering how this V2 compares to V1 of the DAC, V2 is better at soundstage. RCA output is much better than before. Soundstage is noticeably larger. Imaging and Resolution are a little better. LDAC is supported. Same annoying spikes instead of rubber feet. It's a good update.

Thanks for your confirmation. So it's made that way that it clips when "no filter" is selected, though I wonder why there is such a big difference in dB levels with and without filters.

And yes, I've bought four sturdy rubber feet for a dollar to replace those very unstable spikes.

 

[Nutul]

Oh i thought this is a scientific forum about what makes objectively the best playback system and not about your personal preference of shiny discs.


This would be nice! but can you back this up with some data?

So can you, add some data to back up your statement about "all you need is a PC"...?

 

[Nutul]

To play back and EQ high quality Audio.

You don't EQ hi-quality audio. You EQ your room.

 

[Nutul]

Is anyone aware of a DAC that offers < - 140 dB for all harmonics like this expensive ugly duckling does at a significantly lower price point? That would be nice for measurements together with the Cosmos ADC because one could forego the APU / filtering stuff for most applications.

being this the target of the new models, I doubt you can get one at a lesser price... uh?

 

[engie490]

No matter how well this product measures, I would never buy a Shenzen Audio product that costs over $250. And I would only buy it thru Amazon. That would give me 30 days of use to make sure it wasn’t defective.

They don’t support their warranty in the US. State of the art measurements are useless if the company fails to support their products.

 

[jimboaz]

I always find it shocking how easily some feel entitled to tell others what they need, what they should use, etc.
What if I told you that to listen to music all you need is a phone and a bluetooth speaker? I would be right, but maybe you would like to continue using something else.
I have my PC totally out of the audio chain for 1000 reasons, it's not up to you to judge how and why I should use the equipment I buy. Just as I find boring those who suggest ripping CDs and throwing CD players in the toilet.
Everyone has his own needs and uses what he likes in his system.
Thankfully this should still be a hobby and should be driven by personal pleasure.

Exactly - They say - if I can't taste it, see it , hear it or feel it, it must be the same result for everyone else or it just doesn't exist.....lol

 

[Roberti7]

Hey guys,

Have you encountered the same issues at the USB port with the new D1se2 as GoldenSound encountered with the first generation?

D1se Review from GoldenSound

 

[sefril]

Finally tempted to replace my Topping D3+ after about 1 decade.. Got this D1SEv2 at discount price for ex display product, $450..

lot of input/output choices.. xlr output is clean..

btw, the firmware is upgradable? Is there any improvement in function or bug removal?

thanks

 

[AncientWisdom]

My unit just shat itself - getting pretty much just noise out... Affects both XLR and RCA output so I assume something internally fried.
Anyone else had any issues with it?

 

[Jimster480]

My unit just shat itself - getting pretty much just noise out... Affects both XLR and RCA output so I assume something internally fried.
Anyone else had any issues with it?

Wow, that isn't a good look considering it isn't that old.
Hopefully its a fluke

 

[Architectorus]

Hi! Please tell - if there is any drawbacks of using balanced out from DAC to regular RCA on non balanced amp? For this DAC or any other equipment.

 

[Veri]

Hi! Please tell - if there is any drawbacks of using balanced out from DAC to regular RCA on non balanced amp? For this DAC or any other equipment.

Yes, considerably. You can't use balanced out to regular RCA, because regular RCA has 1 pin, XLR has 3 pins (hot, cold, ground). You *cannot* bring both + and - signal to single signal line like RCA without an active transformer. What a single cable would do, is short one of both lines, and pass the other. So 4 volts, half will be shorted and other half (only 2 volts) goes through RCA. Many DACs will not like shorted output, and might perform drastically worse using an XLR to RCA adapter.

Just use RCA to RCA. There isn't much of a sane reason to use XLR>RCA, unless you need 4 RCA lines for example and take two from unbalanced and two from balanced. Same caveat still applies, though. However, there exist floating cables which do not short, like here. $54 for a pair, quite pricy..

Search: 38 results found for "XLR to RCA"

Search: 38 results found for "XLR to RCA" - Benchmark Media Systems

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[Architectorus]

Yes, considerably. You can't use balanced out to regular RCA, because regular RCA has 1 pin, XLR has 3 pins (hot, cold, ground). You *cannot* bring both + and - signal to single signal line like RCA without an active transformer. What a single cable would do, is short one of both lines, and pass the other. So 4 volts, half will be shorted and other half (only 2 volts) goes through RCA. Many DACs will not like shorted output, and might perform drastically worse using an XLR to RCA adapter.

Just use RCA to RCA. There isn't much of a sane reason to use XLR>RCA, unless you need 4 RCA lines for example and take two from unbalanced and two from balanced. Same caveat still applies, though. However, there exist floating cables which do not short, like here. $54 for a pair, quite pricy..

Search: 38 results found for "XLR to RCA"

Search: 38 results found for "XLR to RCA" - Benchmark Media Systems

benchmarkmedia.com

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OMG! Thanks for explanation. But I'm using my Fiio k9 pro with just regular xlr to rca cable. And it seems to me that sound became better with xlr to rca instead of rca2rca. Strange thing. I thought, maybe, because of higher voltage..

 

[Veri]

OMG! Thanks for explanation. But I'm using my Fiio k9 pro with just regular xlr to rca cable. And it seems to me that sound became better with xlr to rca instead of rca2rca.

Well, it seems unlikely but if it works it works. I personally would not advise to do it. But since you're already doing it, I would leave things as they are if things are already sounding good..

But the voltage, in theory, should not be changing.

 

[Architectorus]

And what is the difference between dise 2, second version? I heard in one of reviews of 1st version, that preamp section is not so good. What others think?

 

[Architectorus]

Hi! Please tell how to make sure that I have the second version "D1se2"?
And second question: using with windows 11 laptop with smsl driver but it always show 44100kHz. How to change a value?

 

[LakeOfThaWyld]

Hi! Please tell how to make sure that I have the second version "D1se2"?
And second question: using with windows 11 laptop with smsl driver but it always show 44100kHz. How to change a value?

On the bottom there’s a serial number sticker that states d1se2. Also the OS is different and there’s additional filters and sound color options that only the 9039mpro offers

 

[Architectorus]

Hi. What does this setting affect?
Found some description but can't understand the physics: "DSD Filter – 47, 50, 60 or 70 kHz Cut Off – for the most natural sound choose the first option, for the most extended sound choose the latest"

 

[astrolug]

And what is the difference between dise 2, second version? I heard in one of reviews of 1st version, that preamp section is not so good. What others think?

I have both, and here is what I notice:

1st version: I2S implementation didn't work in my sample, was pretty disappointed about that. RCA output is noticeably a step down from XLR in SQ. Otherwise the unit performs well.

2nd version: I2S works fine, and is the one to go with if you are feeding a CD transport into it as I do. RCA output is much better now, on par with XLR. Bluetooth is much improved too, a nice added bonus for lazy souls like me.

There may be other subtle differences in favour of D1se2, but it's hard to tell. I don't think I'll be tempted to look around much further, as 2nd version has it all pretty much in place.