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SMSL PS200 Budget DAC Review

Rate this DAC:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 2 0.9%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 2 0.9%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 31 14.2%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 183 83.9%

  • Total voters
    218
I've noticed a few MQA haters on this forum. I don't understand why they can't just see it as an extra feature that you can use, but don't have to.

I, personally don't need or want to pay extra bucks for a defunct, proprietary and arguably useless technology. That's money going to a scammy company, and I don't like that.

This DAC is a great and cheap product nonetheless, but it could've been probably cheaper without support for deprecated bloat.
 
I find a lot of SMSL PS200's on eBay and Temu for €80-90. Is there a chance they might be fakes or replicas?
 
I find a lot of SMSL PS200's on eBay and Temu for €80-90. Is there a chance they might be fakes or replicas?
Unlikely that a low cost DAC like the PS200 would be copied and sold as a fake. There's just not enough money in it for counterfeits.
 
Hi. Should i upgrade from smsl su-1 or am i writing something stupid?

Thanks
Pasquale
I have been listening to the SU-1 for a couple weeks now, adding it to my Wiim Ultra because I needed optical coax input. I was really surprised by how much the SU-1 improved the sound of my system (vintage Harman Kardon receiver/Advent Baby II loudspeakers). However well Wiim Ultra measures, the dac can be improved upon for not much money.

Having read glowing reviews claiming that the PS200 bests the SU-1, and having listened to a proper A-B test on YouTube through headphones, I decided to order the PS200 and compare.

I spend about 4 hours last night moving back and forth between the two Dacs. On my system, to my untrained ear, the PS200 takes everything the SU1 does well but opens up the soundstage quite nicely. It seems to allow the music to breathe, and also adds welcome depth to the soundstage. Really pleased with it across a wide genre of music. Bass felt more present, though perhaps a bit less controlled on my equipment? Nothing a bit of EQing can't tailor. Mostly, it unlocked new dynamics in locations in songs I am well-familiar with.

I will be returning my SU1 and keeping the PS200. I would do so even if it was twice the price.

PS: As Amir indicated, the build quality is atrociously plastic. Far inferior to the SU1. They obviously spent every penny on the topography. As he said, hide it somewhere. When folks go "oooooo" tell them its a Gisheli :)
 
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I have been listening to the SU-1 for a couple weeks now, adding it to my Wiim Ultra because I needed optical coax input. I was really surprised by how much the SU-1 improved the sound of my system (vintage Harman Kardon receiver/Advent Baby II loudspeakers). However well Wiim Ultra measures, the dac can be improved upon for not much money.

Having read glowing reviews claiming that the PS200 bests the SU-1, and having listened to a proper A-B test on YouTube through headphones, I decided to order the PS200 and compare.

I spend about 4 hours last night moving back and forth between the two Dacs. On my system, to my untrained ear, the PS200 takes everything the SU1 does well but opens up the soundstage quite nicely. It seems to allow the music to breathe, and also adds welcome depth to the soundstage. Really pleased with it across a wide genre of music. Bass felt more present, though perhaps a bit less controlled on my equipment? Nothing a bit of EQing can't tailor. Mostly, it unlocked new dynamics in locations in songs I am well-familiar with.

I will be returning my SU1 and keeping the PS200. I would do so even if it was twice the price.
You are having delusions about the sound quality difference and a YouTube sound comparison is adding to that.
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You must be a fabulous technician. You exhibit significant neurodiversity.
I say it like it is... The difference between DACs is miniscule and not noticeable when instantly switching them never mind switching over all those cables and then powering up while changing over doing a listening test. If I am apparently brash it's because there is no other way of saying this clearly.
 
I say it like it is... The difference between DACs is miniscule and not noticeable when instantly switching them never mind switching over all those cables and then powering up while changing over doing a listening test. If I am apparently brash it's because there is no other way of saying this clearly.
Thank you for sharing your experience with DACs. That has not been mine. Even at the restrictive bitrates provided by Youtube, the difference between these two DACs was surprisingly apparent in the reviewer's test--especially the dynamic range. That said, my response to another member's question included all the caveats for which they can evaluate the reliability of my observations.

Have a good evening.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience with DACs. That has not been mine. Even at the restrictive bitrates provided by Youtube, the difference between these two DACs was surprisingly apparent in the reviewer's test--especially the dynamic range. That said, my response to another member's question included all the caveats for which they can evaluate the reliability of my observations.

Have a good evening.
Detecting absolutely no difference between those DACs whatsoever.
 
Arrived today from Amazon.it. Anyone could measure output impedance? I have connected to Topping PA-5 II and comparing it to my usual RME ADI-2 DAC FS (single ended outputs) seems heavy in the bass region. Probably brain bias or bad impedance matching?
Thanks
You should be able to conduct some blind testing to verify this. It’s very unlikely that the difference will still be noticeable afterward.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience with DACs. That has not been mine. Even at the restrictive bitrates provided by Youtube, the difference between these two DACs was surprisingly apparent in the reviewer's test--especially the dynamic range. That said, my response to another member's question included all the caveats for which they can evaluate the reliability of my observations.

Have a good evening.
Nope, there’s no difference. I also didn’t notice any difference in dynamic range when examining the file in Audacity, compared to the timestamps of the supposed DAC swap in the video.

Additionally, I suspect that this type of video was created purely for views and could very well be fake. There’s no documentation provided for the setup.
 
Mind you, even the Linn KARIK III CD player that was considered about a jewel in it's time just sounds really bad compared to a device of today !



But maybe our experiences differ ?
Late reply - The Karik III NEEDED the Numerik III dac to be competitive at the end of its life in 1999 or so, in my hands-on experience. The Ikemi one-box player was at least as good subjectively as the previous two-box system once the first batch was out of the way... A shame that Linn don't seem interested in servicing these now though.

As you were fellas, as you were :)
 
Thank you for sharing your experience with DACs. That has not been mine. Even at the restrictive bitrates provided by Youtube, the difference between these two DACs was surprisingly apparent in the reviewer's test--especially the dynamic range. That said, my response to another member's question included all the caveats for which they can evaluate the reliability of my observations.

Have a good evening.

First - the reveiwers test - presumably done via speakers/miocrophone. Speaker distortion, and room effect will vastly swamp the tiny differences between dacs even if they were audible (they are not). Secondly tiny differences in mic placement, or even the position of the reviewer in the room can easly cause audible sonic differences as the recordings are made. As can lack of accurate (with a voltmeter) level matching.

And that is totally ignoring the mangling youtube audio protocols are doing to the sound.

On the other hand:

From engineering, physics, and psychoacoustics, as well as numerous measurements, we know that DACS (when they perform well, which most do) have no noticeable impact on the sound.

However, our hearing is susceptible to perceptive bias. What we hear is influenced by what we know, believe, feel, our life experiences, and what we see. No one is immune to this if they’re human - it’s how we’re built. In fact, we wouldn’t be able to function without our subconscious brain filtering our senses.

So, when someone claims to hear differences between DACs despite the engineering, science, and measurements all saying it’s highly unlikely, should we believe them or attribute it to their very fallible auditory system?

And if you believe your ears, why do you also need your eyes to help you decide what something sounds like? If you trust your ears, do so and compare only with them, no peeking. Controlled, level matched blind.

Anything else is a waste of your time posting. It doesn't inform any one of anything valid regarding the performance of the devices you are comparing.
 
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As I've written even before the review, the main reason I recommended it over SU-1 is because it adds BT and also because the LED lights are less bright. To me those are two improvements. Otherwise it's so small that I don't care that it's plastic, few will notice it and until you have it in your hands you might not grasp just how small it is
 
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