TOPPING Audio Interfaces Coming soon！

[computer-audiophile]

I'd rather see some interesting products with interesting features.

... or at least an outstanding casing design. But I admit that the market is becoming increasingly difficult, because there is already everything.

 

[Sashoir]

Plus it's very easy to fix software problems.

Easy to fix before they are made. Slightly less easy after the product's been shipped and the development budget's already been burned.

 

[Toni Mas]

If they can offer gear that work fine under Linux and Alsa, for me It would be great. I am tired of buying soundcards that are not as Class compliant as claimed and should be, and have no interest in using this stuff under Windows or Mac. But i know my usecase is atypical and of marginal interest for soundcard manufacturers.

 

[iconoclast]

IMO, DACs and audio interfaces should be boring. Ideally, this forum would not need to exist.

Hi
I had also bought a couple of Topping small appliances to try out, e.g. one E30II and one L30II I kept, but strangely I can't muster any enthusiasm or even love for it. There is something cheap about it.

 

[Toni Mas]

Pro audio is no joke,durability and support comes first,better test each one of them with the worst case scenarios can ever be.
Lowest noise mic preramps means suitable for measurements too,right?
If they include an autoranger too and high voltage input ability it will be really nice.

Do you consider home studio users of cheap berhinger focusrite edirol roland, etc... profesionals?

Btw, if this is the market targetted by Topping i am afraid that they are loosing their time, as these are not pro nor quality demanding users. It s mass market with very basic requirements, mostly on a tight budget ones...

 

[Toni Mas]

Let's see how they develop low latency drivers and maintain their products after a few years, since Topping is known for releasing like a DAC every month or so.

Topping and others are close followers of their suppliers chip makers. The last brews of their dacs simply use the last upgrades made by Ess, akm, xmos, etc... And this is good for this industry...

My main current concern with the purchase of a DM7 8 Channel dac is that they will probably launch sooner a better one based on a new Akm Velvet chip or similar ...

 

[Toni Mas]

<Haha>, software engineering is too difficult for Topping.

Naaa... They simply have little interest in stuff they cannot fill a container with...

 

[Sokel]

Do you consider home studio users of cheap berhinger focusrite edirol roland, etc... profesionals?

Nope.
I consider professionals the ones who can actually make a living out of this,support a family or better,etc.
And to those people time is of the essence,no glitches,SW or HW fails are allowed.

 

[Toni Mas]

Nope.
I consider professionals the ones who can actually make a living out of this,support a family or better,etc.
And to those people time is of the essence,no glitches,SW or HW fails are allowed.

Many amateurs among these... With their needs widely covered by entry level stuff.

These do not really need stellar performance, simply hassle free use.

 

[jcheavymetal]

Looks like it's already being sold in China

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[Toni Mas]

Looks like it's already being sold in China

TOPPING拓品E2x2/E4x4 Pre音頻接口專業聲卡平板直播錄音混音-Taobao

歡迎來到淘寶拓品電子，選購拓品E2X2專業聲卡，該商品累計熱賣100+件，好評率99%，1000+用戶購後寫下真實評論，其中14人說它質量很好，19人說它性比價極高，14人說它細節做的很好，13人說它沒有底噪，16人說它售後態度很好，2人說它設計不環保。品牌：TOPPING，接口類型：音頻輸出,耳機接口,音頻輸入,USB，顏色分類：E2X2黑色,E4X4 Pre黑色,E2X2黑色+蘋果OTG線,E2X2黑色+Type-C口OTG線,E4X4 Pre黑色+蘋果OTG線,E4X4...

world.taobao.com

I like the way the way the chinese advertise their products showing chips and specs, not showing guys playing guitar, recording a podcast or taking beers...

 

[Sokel]

I like the way the way the chinese advertise their products showing chips and specs, not showing guys playing guitar, recording a podcast or taking beers...

Down the page there is a guy playing and another one recording,it's inevitable

So,I don't know Chinese but 100db SINAD for the DAC and 110db SINAD for the ADC?
Is that what the above photo is saying?

 

[BeerBear]

It's on their website now: https://topping.pro/e2x2/

While I would like to see DSP, I still give credit to Topping for focusing on objective performance, rather than on cheesy marketing and gimmicks, which is so common in this market segment.

 

[sweetchaos]

I’d like to see a review.

 

[Matias]

It's on their website now: https://topping.pro/e2x2/

While I would like to see DSP, I still give credit to Topping for focusing on objective performance, rather than on cheesy marketing and gimmicks, which is so common in this market segment.

Lots of dBs thrown around and no word of round trip latency, which is a lot more important in the recording market as opposed to Hi-fi. Good luck, this is not ASR.

 

[BeerBear]

Well, we know that it uses an XMOS-Thesycon combo, which is a pretty standard affair. Some established companies use it in their (expensive) products. Based on that we can expect a somewhat average low latency performance.

I think that as long as they haven't made any mistakes, it should easily compete with similar products in this category (Focusrite, SSL, Behringer, Motu ...). It should beat most/all of those in terms of audio performance and have similar latency. The one thing I would have also liked is a stepped/digital volume control, for the perfect channel balance. But most entry level products don't have that either.

 

[Sokel]

What I really don't like about it is the 48V phantom power button placement.
It's way too easy pushing it by mistake placed just under the gain knob or next to the inputs where the side of the hand can push it while plugging/unplugging stuff.

I hope there's at least a rock solid option deactivating it in CP.

Edit: another option would be to make the switch time sensitive,give it for example 5-10 secs to activate,that would avoid accidental instant push.

 

[Matias]

It's already on Topping's store on Aliexpress for 160 usd. The competing Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 3 is 190 usd on Amazon for reference.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005900994376.html

 

[MCH]

It's already on Topping's store on Aliexpress for 160 usd. The competing Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 3 is 190 usd on Amazon for reference.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005900994376.html

172 eur the topping vía AliExpress vs 122 eur the Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen. from amazon.de or 193 the 4i4 for me... It would not be a difficult as of today

 

[Sokel]

172 eur the topping vía AliExpress vs 122 eur the Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen. from amazon.de or 193 the 4i4 for me... It would not be a difficult as of today

125 euros in Europe are the B-stock Scarletts,normal price is about 200 and the same for Topping inc VAT.