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Apparently enough to keep companies like this (and many others) in business,:
https://www.nativedsd.com/
Niché of a niché.
Apparently enough to keep companies like this (and many others) in business,:
https://www.nativedsd.com/
I would be interested in some of these recordings because I have some old direct to disc LPs that sound good and the performances can be inspired as there are no re-dos or dubs or mixing. Unfortuneately if you read carefully that is not what going on here...it seems all the recordings are still post processed so the whole "native" thing is suspect.Apparently enough to keep companies like this (and many others) in business,:
https://www.nativedsd.com/
OK. But why are we wasting attention on these, imho, settled issues? The marketing of DSD files has not compensated for the withering of the SACD business, the acknowledgement that all new recordings are made in some form of PCM (although labeled as DXD) and the near ubiquitous ability of modern DACs to handle both DSD and PCM confirms this.
There will always be those who are influenced by market talk and trends to make irrational purchase decisions and there will always be those who are happy to take advantage of such people.
Given that, the only real matters are the skill of producers/engineers and honesty/transparency of the entire supply chain with regard to provenance.
Worth reading this Lipschitz and Vanderkooy paper on 1 bit sigma-delta encoding (DSD).Not sure about settled for me.
I would really like to know how DSD recorders work as opposed to PCM recorders.
I would really like to know what processes differ in the DAC between PCM and DSD paths.
I would really like to know what differences DSD to PCM methods have with each other, and also compared to plain PCM.
Was there any, even the slightest evidence behind the market talk and trends? And as my discussion isn't really interested in the DSD being sold out there, but rather is about simply using DSD as a format to record nature, speeches, local concerts etc and to playback for example through HQPlayer, or to downconvert DSD to PCM to save space and perhaps keep its quality, the skill of producers/engineers isn't the only matter.
But I acknowledge that even PCM-D100 is like a toy and isn't real DSD. It seems we can use phones to record notes in AAC but the time has not come when DSD can be treated the same way.
Is that why recently they started offering "normal" 96k FLACs? (sadly, no 44.1k) https://www.nativedsd.com/catalogue/?filter_quality=flac-96khzApparently enough to keep companies like this (and many others) in business,:
https://www.nativedsd.com/
Looks like they starting with 1024 too: https://www.nativedsd.com/catalogue/?filter_quality=dsd-1024-fsThey offer DSD512
I guess they won "the race to a megahertz..."Is that why recently they started offering "normal" 96k FLACs? (sadly, no 44.1k) https://www.nativedsd.com/catalogue/?filter_quality=flac-96khz
(Don't get me wrong, I fully support it. I'm actually surprised that it took them so long.)
Looks like they starting with 1024 too: https://www.nativedsd.com/catalogue/?filter_quality=dsd-1024-fs
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I think you meant DSD? To oversimplify, a one bit system only has a 6 dB signal-to-noise ratio. That would suck so DSD shapes the noise shoving it above the hearing range, where it is either harmless or horrible depending on your system and your beliefs and the phase of the moon. (I don't recall if the amplitudes become enough to cause problems with sensitive equipment...ah there's analog output filtering? Blanking out mentally...).Is hires LPCM noise shaping similar to DXD
You are correct. The ultra hires file in amir's explainer video was likely a DSD. I was surprised how noisy the 50-150KHz region was.I think you meant DSD? To oversimplify, a one bit system only has a 6 dB signal-to-noise ratio. That would suck so DSD shapes the noise shoving it above the hearing range, where it is either harmless or horrible depending on your system and your beliefs and the phase of the moon. (I don't recall if the amplitudes become enough to cause problems with sensitive equipment...ah there's analog output filtering? Blanking out mentally...).
LPCM-if you had a pure PCM system at 24 bits then in theory the S/N would be 144 dB which only exists in the digital domain-only a couple hardware units claim anywhere near that noise performance and it far exceeds any real recording or playback room's noise floor.
There aren't too many pure ADC nor DACs I don't think. Most seem to be hybrids between 1-bit and pure PCM. I recall a boss of mine being very bothered when I kept saying "so this new DAC is like 3 bits inside instead of 1 bit, right?" OMG he was SO annoyed by that but actually I was correct. Anyway the noise shaping can vary according to the DAC design.
Corrections welcome, it's been a long time since I worked with the engineering details of this stuff.
Er, many of us must beg to differ. I have maybe 3 dozen audio-only, non-concert Blu-rays (surround remixes of studio albums). Now, is there a special SACD market? Seems like it, to my annoyance since I believe it will get harder and harder to find players, I'd far rather those titles came out on Blu-ray (or even DVD-Audio with a DVD-Video layer).an audiophile ins't going to buy a Bluray.
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan as well as the island of Saba.I keep wondering where this allegedly large community of audiophiles demanding DXD is.
How many "audiophile" buyers go to a real store these days? You buy on the web and choose from the available formats/media. Odd's are, more and more are not buying physical media anyway.Ok. Right. But an audiophile ins't going to buy a Bluray. I mean, if you go to s store and ask for music, they show you CDs and SACDs, not Blurays.
Er, many of us must beg to differ. I have maybe 3 dozen audio-only, non-concert Blu-rays (surround remixes of studio albums).
CD sales were 4% of music sales in 2020. Currently at 3% of the peak year in 2000. SACD and Bluray were approximately 5% as much as CD sales or less than .2% of total sales by revenue. Physical media isn't selling much, and going down by more than 20% per year (except for LP).
I know of a couple places that only sale physical media. But they are truly one horse operations and aren't even a blip on the sales chart.Thanks for the data. Do you have an idea of the percentage of hi-res produced music can't be found in a physical support? I mean, are there many recording brands that only publish their materials online? I mean, they ship the music phisically but it doesn't get sold, but they are afraid to go only for the online market.