I'd like to see a comparison with grill on for all reviews, not an entire measurement collection of data, but just one pass to check.Yes, but, primary reason: “grill on” is how will be used in practice.
I'd like to see a comparison with grill on for all reviews, not an entire measurement collection of data, but just one pass to check.Yes, but, primary reason: “grill on” is how will be used in practice.
Micca's are worse than these:how do they compare against the Micca MB42x
Also how about compared to the Neumi BS5? And also wondering where are you getting the preference because I couldn't find it.Micca's are worse than these:
Micca's have a Preference Score 2.0 (if score goes to 10.0) vs Preference Score 3.4 (PSB P3).
I wouldn't buy either of these, TBH.
That's much better, and easily recommended for it's price point (US$110 I believe).Also how about compared to the Neumi BS5? And also wondering where are you getting the preference because I couldn't find it.
I have done that a couple of times and it just doesn't show much. It will be just a small deviation across a range.I'd like to see a comparison with grill on for all reviews, not an entire measurement collection of data, but just one pass to check.
Join the club.I hate to say it, but some of my early Stereophile hero brands (30 years ago...though Thiel was always my favorite) are really taking a dive in the lower priced offerings. It feels as if they're just parts bin builds with no crossover tuning.
Better stuff for the price out there I suppose....
My cats will love that. They prefer grills over cones.I have done that a couple of times and it just doesn't show much. It will be just a small deviation across a range.
ROFL I’m loving this use case, perfectly said! Or designed for distracted listening at a strip club?These are obviously designed for luxury listening after yard work. Anyone who disagrees just isn't the target audience!
It really is sad, but at least KEF and Focal are still hangin' tough, even reinventing themselves now and then.Join the club.
OK, here's my tribute video to this comment:These are obviously designed for luxury listening after yard work. Anyone who disagrees just isn't the target audience!
+1For all the headless Panthers keep the following in mind.
Most would be better with something else (2 JBL 305's would cost less street and have amps), but the design is likely catering to a small target market who doesn't want those black boxes.
- $249 a pair(2 speakers) for reasonable looks. ( @amirm your lead statements imply $249 each maybe change to $249 for 2)
- 4.5" woofer, that will play reasonably low in bass. ( vs zero bass)
- Target buyer, someone with no need to go loud (the 60-75db crowd) and likely a need for very small speakers and a need for them to look like they belong in the living space.
Anyway not saying they have a head but maybe they have a small head or part of the head left.
Switch to Infinity.+1
I have these as daily drivers on my desk and honestly, for the size AND price, I haven't been able to find anything better out there. That being said, I do EQ them and I can confirm my in room measurements with REW also show bumps at 400hz, 1khz and 3-4khz. But I find it fairly easy to get them mostly neutral with some EQ. Also, their bass is pretty unreal for their size.
My only gripe with them is the upside down design which, for my scenario on my desk, I have to run them right side up to get the tweeters closer to my ears which then shows the vinyl seam and label on top.
I have the PSB Alpha P5, the P3's bigger brothers, also measured by Amir.......receiving a headless panther too. They might measure not so well (okay, understatement) but sound pretty good in my setup. My Polk S15s measured well, but often sound not as good as the P5s. What is happening? Without excluding possible problems with my ears and/or brain (hahahaha), I suspect some tension exists between measurements and real-life situations (listening experiences). Makes it all pretty complex, although I understand measurements give at least a pretty accurate basic assesment, however, it seems they do not tell the complete story.Thanks for measuring these. This is a surprising result. I had the Alpha P3's in for a few months and truly enjoyed my experience with them. At around the same time, I also had the SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers, and there was nothing I could do made the Ultras sound half as good in my room as the PSB Alpha P3's.
I've noticed that objective performance of the SVS was quite good here. Somehow, this did not translate to my room and system while the PSB was great. The SVS had kind-of a hooty upper midrange that especially affected female vocals. I had them on 26 in. Sanus stands. Perhaps the tweeter height was too low for the Ultra's when I evaluated them? The tone and timbre of the PSB's sounded "just right."
These results are a bit head-scratching, but the numbers don't lie.
I have owned ****** speakers. Did not realize the smell until purchased speakers based upon this site's measurements.I have the PSB Alpha P5, the P3's bigger brothers, also measured by Amir.......receiving a headless panther too. They might measure not so well (okay, understatement) but sound pretty good in my setup. My Polk S15s measured well, but often sound not as good as the P5s. What is happening? Without excluding possible problems with my ears and/or brain (hahahaha), I suspect some tension exists between measurements and real-life situations (listening experiences). Makes it all pretty complex, although I understand measurements give at least a pretty accurate basic assesment, however, it seems they do not tell the complete story.
A complete story would require you to measure what you are hearing at your listening seat with each set of speakers.I have the PSB Alpha P5, the P3's bigger brothers, also measured by Amir.......receiving a headless panther too. They might measure not so well (okay, understatement) but sound pretty good in my setup. My Polk S15s measured well, but often sound not as good as the P5s. What is happening? Without excluding possible problems with my ears and/or brain (hahahaha), I suspect some tension exists between measurements and real-life situations (listening experiences). Makes it all pretty complex, although I understand measurements give at least a pretty accurate basic assesment, however, it seems they do not tell the complete story.