Potential New 3.5mm USB-C Dongles & USB DAC/AMPs

[Olrih]

MEIZU HIFI PRO is second only to W2.

Sorry I couldn’t cache you my English level doesn’t help to know what meant in this comment for give me
By the way i was go to buy meizu from AliExpress and some folks in another forum said don’t do that the ibasso dc03 is batter and matias recommend tempotec now i confused again

So for the last time forgive me my friend (S34MH1) I would ask u should i buy i basso dc03 or meizu hifi dac pro and you know what sound i prefer from my detailed comment above.

 

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Sorry I couldn’t cache you my English level doesn’t help to know what meant in this comment for give me
By the way i was go to buy meizu from AliExpress and some folks in another forum said don’t do that the ibasso dc03 is batter and matias recommend tempotec now i confused again

So for the last time forgive me my friend (S34MH1) I would ask u should i buy i basso dc03 or meizu hifi dac pro and you know what sound i prefer from my detailed comment above.

MEIZU HIFI PRO

 

[Matias]

MEIZU HIFI PRO

Show us where to buy it? It has been unavailable everywhere, perhaps even discontinued.

 

[Olrih]

Show us where to buy it? It has been unavailable everywhere, perhaps even discontinued.

TRY 169.50 22％ İndirim | Meizu Hifi kulaklık amplifikatör ses HiFi kayıpsız DAC tipi C için 3.5mm ses adaptörü Cirrus Logic CS43131 çip yüksek empedans
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msdidqX


TRY 166.42 61％ İndirim | Meizu HIFI DAC kulaklık amplifikatör tipi C için 3.5mm ses adaptörü Cirrus ve TI süper iki sahne amplifikatörü kayıpsız 32bit/384K
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0i5CwF

The second one where i will purchase

 

[Veri]

TRY 169.50 22％ İndirim | Meizu Hifi kulaklık amplifikatör ses HiFi kayıpsız DAC tipi C için 3.5mm ses adaptörü Cirrus Logic CS43131 çip yüksek empedans
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msdidqX


TRY 166.42 61％ İndirim | Meizu HIFI DAC kulaklık amplifikatör tipi C için 3.5mm ses adaptörü Cirrus ve TI süper iki sahne amplifikatörü kayıpsız 32bit/384K
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0i5CwF

The second one where i will purchase

These are all 'Meizu usb-c dongle' variant. Meizu pro was a bit more expensive, and doesn't seem to be for sale anymore. But it was clearly marked as 'Meizu Pro', and had different price..

 

[Olrih]

These are all 'Meizu usb-c dongle' variant. Meizu pro was a bit more expensive, and doesn't seem to be for sale anymore. But it was clearly marked as 'Meizu Pro', and had different price..

Oh really thank god i share before purchase it matias thank you for asking but the second one in comment everyone is saying the product is original

 

[Matias]

Oh really thank god i share before purchase it matias thank you for asking but the second one in comment everyone is saying the product is original

It is original indeed, but an original Meizu dongle DAC, not the original Meizu PRO dongle DAC, these are different.

 

[Olrih]

It is original indeed, but an original Meizu dongle DAC, not the original Meizu PRO dongle DAC, these are different.

okey thanks for information. Then now i have to purchase ibasso dc03 if meizu pro out of stoke

 

[Jet Black]

I believe you are better with the ibasso dc03 as both uses the same cirrus logic chip cs43131, however ibasso utilizes two of those chips as oppose to one chip on the meizu. The dual dac setup is for lower noise and higher amplification. So you could drive higher powered headphones and iem, dc03 can do 80mw @ 32ohms as opposed to just 30 or 50 mw on the Meizu. The reason I chose ibasso. Very neutral sound with good bass hit.

 

[Zerohour]

Another one to add, sad to think this will probably won't get ever reviewed (amir got too much on his plate with headphone and speakers now), but I like the connectivity options:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001780457192.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.36163c00j88MXN&mp=1

 

[WoodyLuvr]

I believe you are better with the ibasso dc03 as both uses the same cirrus logic chip cs43131, however ibasso utilizes two of those chips as oppose to one chip on the meizu. The dual dac setup is for lower noise and higher amplification. So you could drive higher powered headphones and iem, dc03 can do 80mw @ 32ohms as opposed to just 30 or 50 mw on the Meizu. The reason I chose ibasso. Very neutral sound with good bass hit.

If referring to the Meizu HiFi DAC headAMP PRO although listed by Meizu as having up to ~1.75Vrms output (as determined by auto-impedance detection) with a thrust of 30mW @ 32Ω (6.7mW @ 600Ω) it has been measured to be much, much higher:

87mW @ 33Ω by Amir (https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...hifi-pro-usb-c-phone-dongle-dac-review.10423/)​

and if "tricked" via a headphone adapter will output at ~2Vrms with a thrust of 100mW @ 32Ω (13mW @ 300Ω); <0.0002% THD+N @ 1kHz; >123dBA (https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/94991395).

Headphone Adapter Trick:

1. Firstly, plug the adapter into the output jack of the Meizu HiFi PRO
2. Secondly, plug the Meizu HiFi PRO into the phone/pc (at which point device will recognize as if headphones are plugged in and switch to high-gain mode)
3. Thirdly, plug headphone into the adapter

The Meizu HiFi PRO "sees" the empty adapter as ∞ (infinity) impedance and therefore "activates" high-gain/high-impedance mode.​

Regarding the PRO version... although unfortunately discontinued by Meizu due to the unavailability of the particular version of Texas Instrument's OPA1622 second-level op amp that it uses on the PRO (as heavily discussed on the Chinese audiophile forums) there are NOS (new old stock) still floating around out there for those who are persistent and patient enough to hunt for them.

 

[I0000dayz]

Hey guys, I am new here and I am looking for a good, cheap USB-C to 3.5mm DAC I can find on Amazon Europe, preferably .de

Initially I wanted to go with the notorious Apple dongle but I've read that the EU version has half the power of the American version and I'm not sure it can drive my Hifiman Sundara decently without an external amp.

I've found this and the stats are quite impressive but I'm not sure if it's good in real conditions:
Chip: CS46L41
DNR: >120dB
SNR: >125dB
Cable length: 13cm
THD+N: 0.00125%
Impedance Drive: 16-600Ω

 

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Hey guys, I am new here and I am looking for a good, cheap USB-C to 3.5mm DAC I can find on Amazon Europe, preferably .de

Initially I wanted to go with the notorious Apple dongle but I've read that the EU version has half the power of the American version and I'm not sure it can drive my Hifiman Sundara decently without an external amp.

I've found this and the stats are quite impressive but I'm not sure if it's good in real conditions:
Chip: CS46L41
DNR: >120dB
SNR: >125dB
Cable length: 13cm
THD+N: 0.00125%
Impedance Drive: 16-600Ω

DC03.

 

[Jimbob54]

Hey guys, I am new here and I am looking for a good, cheap USB-C to 3.5mm DAC I can find on Amazon Europe, preferably .de

Initially I wanted to go with the notorious Apple dongle but I've read that the EU version has half the power of the American version and I'm not sure it can drive my Hifiman Sundara decently without an external amp.

I've found this and the stats are quite impressive but I'm not sure if it's good in real conditions:
Chip: CS46L41
DNR: >120dB
SNR: >125dB
Cable length: 13cm
THD+N: 0.00125%
Impedance Drive: 16-600Ω

Personally I wouldnt buy any of these dongles unless I had seen the measurements and a raft of feedback on this or any other forum. I'm sure it will work, but when compared to a known quantity like the Meizu Hifi dongle for about the same price, you might not be getting anywhere near the advertised spec. Then you also can get issues around pops, clicks and stuttering which again forums like this are good at indentifying.

 

[I0000dayz]

Personally I wouldnt buy any of these dongles unless I had seen the measurements and a raft of feedback on this or any other forum. I'm sure it will work, but when compared to a known quantity like the Meizu Hifi dongle for about the same price, you might not be getting anywhere near the advertised spec. Then you also can get issues around pops, clicks and stuttering which again forums like this are good at indentifying.

I see. Then I will look into iBasso DC03 like S34MH1 recommended me. One question I have is whether the sound quality is much different from desktop DACs? I've read a thread on head-fi where people describe that the sound is "great for a USB DAC" and people here writing there's no perceptible difference from desktop DACs. What do you think?

 

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I see. Then I will look into iBasso DC03 like S34MH1 recommended me. One question I have is whether the sound quality is much different from desktop DACs? I've read a thread on head-fi where people describe that the sound is "great for a USB DAC" and people here writing there's no perceptible difference from desktop DACs. What do you think?

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measurement-of-ibasso-dc-03/
https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measurement-of-ibasso-dc-03/

 

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Personally I wouldnt buy any of these dongles unless I had seen the measurements and a raft of feedback on this or any other forum. I'm sure it will work, but when compared to a known quantity like the Meizu Hifi dongle for about the same price, you might not be getting anywhere near the advertised spec. Then you also can get issues around pops, clicks and stuttering which again forums like this are good at indentifying.

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measurement-of-ibasso-dc-03/
https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measurement-of-ibasso-dc-03/

 

[Jimbob54]

I see. Then I will look into iBasso DC03 like S34MH1 recommended me. One question I have is whether the sound quality is much different from desktop DACs? I've read a thread on head-fi where people describe that the sound is "great for a USB DAC" and people here writing there's no perceptible difference from desktop DACs. What do you think?

Different use cases. I've never tried a dongle dac into a desktop headphone amp so can't comment. If the dac measures well as tested here, why should it sound different to a similarly measuring desktop dac? Both should be transparent. But if driving headphones, I can imagine some headphones need a desktop amp to get the best from so the dongle might not "sound" it's best.

 

[AdamG]

I see. Then I will look into iBasso DC03 like S34MH1 recommended me. One question I have is whether the sound quality is much different from desktop DACs? I've read a thread on head-fi where people describe that the sound is "great for a USB DAC" and people here writing there's no perceptible difference from desktop DACs. What do you think?

Welcome Aboard @I0000days.

 

[Earfonia]

Just read the review and measurement of HiBy FC3 here:

https://www.hypethesonics.com/hiby-fc3-minihype/

https://www.hypethesonics.com/dapti-database/

Chord Dave level for just $69

Seems to be a gem for USB C DAC under $100