Phonograph Stylus Wear Experiment

[JP]

Careful the gel sticking to the stylus. My last took about 45 minutes to clean it off.

 

[restorer-john]

My high end silly priced object. Works really well and fits in .Not a single shop in town had the AT version and Magic eraser unknown here too..

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It looks like (and likely acts like) a piece of gecko (nano) tape. I've got metres of the stuff. Should try it.

 

[Thomas_A]

My high end silly priced object. Works really well and fits in .Not a single shop in town had the AT version and Magic eraser unknown here too..

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Isn't this the same as "magic eraser"?

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[morillon]

https://www.amazon.fr/Mr-Propre-Puissante-Nettoyante-Effaceur/dp/B082VV3SXB

and lots of generic equivalent

 

[restorer-john]

Careful the gel sticking to the stylus. My last took about 45 minutes to clean it off.

Maybe put it in the refrigerator next time. Stops it getting quite so 'icky'.

 

[Thomas_A]

https://www.amazon.fr/Mr-Propre-Puissante-Nettoyante-Effaceur/dp/B082VV3SXB

and lots of generic equivalent

It seems to be the same material. Sponge that needs some wetting and "magically" removes stains.

 

[morillon]

can also be used dry! our case...
just cut a piece...

 

[JP]

Maybe put it in the refrigerator next time. Stops it getting quite so 'icky'.

Perhaps, but the inconvenience of doing that and the risk of it not making a difference are both non-starters for me, particularly since there are alternate methods that don‘t involve that hassle and the potentially continued negative outcome.

 

[Balle Clorin]

Isn't this the same as "magic eraser"?

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No, mine is made of barefoot virgin albinos in straw huts at the hillsides of Fuji. n it is clear and transparent. Proven by 500 dips showing no residue on stylus using professional microscope.

 

[Thomas_A]

No, mine is made of barefoot virgin albinos in straw huts at the hillsides of Fuji. n it is clear and transparent. Proven by 500 dips showing no residue on stylus using professional microscope.

Ha, well...I think I saw one or two of these used but there was no diamond tip left after use...

 

[Balle Clorin]

!!!??? Used mine a year no issues

 

[Thomas_A]

!!!??? Used mine a year no issues

Sure it was made in the huts?

 

[morillon]

someones closes ( many) to me or myself have been using this technique for like 15 years.... without ever having encountered this... see cartdriges worth several thousand euros etc
(but not cells over 30 years old like we can come across here ;-).. )
what s cartdriges lost diamant in your case?
(but losses of cantilevers etc due to poor handling "which only happens to others" a certain number... :-o )

 

[USER]

Careful the gel sticking to the stylus. My last took about 45 minutes to clean it off.

I stopped using that stuff for the same exact reason. Bad combo with my old Denon DL-103R. Isopropyl alcohol, a little distilled water, and stylus brush does the job well.

 

[Thomas_A]

someones closes ( many) to me or myself have been using this technique for like 15 years.... without ever having encountered this... see cells worth several thousand euros etc
(but not cells over 30 years old like we can come across here ;-).. )
what s cartdriges lost diamant in your case?

I think were are on the joking side. Never heard of a stylus cleaner made by barefoot virgin albinos in straw huts at the hillsides of Fuji.

 

[JP]

someones closes ( many) to me or myself have been using this technique for like 15 years.... without ever having encountered this... see cartdriges worth several thousand euros etc
(but not cells over 30 years old like we can come across here ;-).. )
what s cartdriges lost diamant in your case?

I've seen many reports over the years, though it's most likely the stylus bond was compromised in a different way, or it was dragged through the gel. I'd used it for about 10 years without any such issues.

I stopped using that stuff for the same exact reason. Bad combo with my old Denon DL-103R. Isopropyl alcohol, a little distilled water, and stylus brush does the job well.

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I'm rather confident that's what was on this P100CMK4 stylus, as it sealed NOS when I got it, used very little by me, and only on pristine records. In general I've never had the large debris like your picture shows, and it never presented under the microscope using the "Shure" method to evaluate wear, but it sure did with a different view (this might have been "dipped" ~30 times):

 

[morillon]

I've seen many reports over the years, though it's most likely the stylus bond was compromised in a different way, or it was dragged through the gel. I'd used it for about 10 years without any such issues.



I'm rather confident that's what was on this P100CMK4 stylus, as it sealed NOS when I got it, used very little by me, and only on pristine records. In general I've never had the large debris like your picture shows, and it never presented under the microscope using the "Shure" method to evaluate wear, but it sure did with a different view (this might have been "dipped" ~30 times):

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I was talking about the magic eraser.. (but I really can't imagine possible detachment due to the gel itself, it's really not aggressive...unless you move it while the diamond is placed on it,rather poor handling, clumsiness, when doing things “placed” on the board that can move..it’s “dangerous” etc)

 

[JP]

I was talking about the magic eraser.. (but I really can't imagine possible detachment due to the gel itself, it's really not aggressive...unless you move it while the diamond is placed on it)

For the gel, not with just dipping. ME I've actually gently dragged styli through a time or two for really dirty acquisitions, though I do it carefully under my inspection scope.

 

[morillon]

For the gel, not with just dipping. ME I've actually gently dragged styli through a time or two for really dirty acquisitions, though I do it carefully under my inspection scope.

It seems to me that the story of the gel was precisely intended to reassure and avoid this... just drop the cartdrige on top and raise it with the arm lift... without risk of clumsiness etc..
(but "eraser" can also be used like this and is more effective)

 

[JP]

It seems to me that the story of the gel was precisely intended to reassure and avoid this... just drop the cell on top and raise it with the arm lift... without risk of clumsiness etc..
(but "eraser" can also be used like this and is more effective)

Ya, I can't see how just dipping in the gel would pull the diamond off, unless it was going to come off anyway. Bummer the sticky issue, as it was a convenient method.