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[No Politics] What you need to know about CoVID-19 by SARS-CoV-2 [No Politics]
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Here in the Washington, D.C., area we are supposed to hit the “peak” of the curve pretty soon. I took a walk outside this evening for my daily exercise (as we are advised we can do) and stayed at least six feet away from everyone (more, actually). This is Friday night in springtime. Seeing everything completely shuttered up was absolutely jarring. Where I live, starting on Monday, it will be required to wear a mask if someone goes to the store, I saw a projection today (I think in the NY times—it gave projections based on our mailing codes or zip codes as we call it in the US.) that our hospitals in this region will be overloaded for a time when we hit our peak.
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This video is great. Just watched the whole video. Learned a ton (though some of it was a bit over my head). I read in the paper the French study discussed in the video has now been retracted.
Virus Dashboards:
https://covid19info.live/
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
The pandemic is intimately wedded with politics when any particular principality's "response" to it is posted, so there will often be some political slant to news items posted.
I have a friend who plays keyboards and, when nobody else volunteers, becomes "musical director" aboard whichever ship he signs up for.
He's likely a victim of this:
https://gcaptain.com/coast-guard-93000-crew-members-still-stuck-on-cruise-ships-off-united-states/
"According to the Coast Guard, as of Sunday there were 114 cruise ships still carrying 93,000 crew members either in or near U.S. ports and waters. This includes 73 cruise ships with a combined 53,000 crew members either moored or anchored in U.S. ports and another 41 ships with 41,000 crew members still underway in the vicinity of the United States.
Ultimately, however, it is the obligation of the cruise lines for the care, safety and welfare of their seafarers, the Coast Guard says."
Though he's a natural home-born white guy US Citizen from the Northeast, and his (foreign, they all are*) cruise ship has been docked (recently in New Orleans), he probably can't get off and go about his business like a normal person might.
More Cruise Ship woes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_on_cruise_ships
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*For a cruise ship to travel between US Ports, it must be registered under the US flag, and adhere to US rules, which, of course, makes it too expensive, except for some isolated cases. Foreign flagged ships may enter US ports, but not two US ports in a row, without first docking in a foreign nation's port.
The only US Flagged Cruise Ship, which operates among the Hawaiian Islands - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_America
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I have a friend who plays keyboards and, when nobody else volunteers, becomes "musical director" aboard whichever ship he signs up for.
He's likely a victim of this:
https://gcaptain.com/coast-guard-93000-crew-members-still-stuck-on-cruise-ships-off-united-states/
"According to the Coast Guard, as of Sunday there were 114 cruise ships still carrying 93,000 crew members either in or near U.S. ports and waters. This includes 73 cruise ships with a combined 53,000 crew members either moored or anchored in U.S. ports and another 41 ships with 41,000 crew members still underway in the vicinity of the United States.
Ultimately, however, it is the obligation of the cruise lines for the care, safety and welfare of their seafarers, the Coast Guard says."
Though he's a natural home-born white guy US Citizen from the Northeast, and his (foreign, they all are*) cruise ship has been docked (recently in New Orleans), he probably can't get off and go about his business like a normal person might.
More Cruise Ship woes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_on_cruise_ships
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*For a cruise ship to travel between US Ports, it must be registered under the US flag, and adhere to US rules, which, of course, makes it too expensive, except for some isolated cases. Foreign flagged ships may enter US ports, but not two US ports in a row, without first docking in a foreign nation's port.
The only US Flagged Cruise Ship, which operates among the Hawaiian Islands - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_America
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Jeff
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Sad news in the jazz world: Jazz greats Wallace Roney and Ellis Marsalis (father of Wynton, Branford, Delfeayo, etc.) have died of coronavirus.
That is very sad....
Anybody who thinks the response to Covid 19 can be separated from politics is delusional.
Here's some old news I didn't see at the time.
https://time.com/5801603/faa-airlines-empty-planes-coronavirus/
Airlines don't have to fly empty planes in and out of airports to retain their "rights" to do that (for a while).
https://time.com/5801603/faa-airlines-empty-planes-coronavirus/
Airlines don't have to fly empty planes in and out of airports to retain their "rights" to do that (for a while).
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Wow, you guys waited an entire 5 to 8 posts before making this political, despite the plea of the original poster not to do so. Sorry, but the rejection of evidence-based data and information should not be accepted anywhere and especially not here.
Well politics aside 
I'm self isolating, been at it for some time, rarely go out and have settled into a routine. Sleep 2x a day, play a lil FPS games, hang @ ASR, surf the web, chit chat online, sip some rye when I have it and laying low. Don't know if I can do this for months but I'll see. That's the crux of all this. How long can people self isolate and how long can the economy manage that too? I don't see going further than maybe May but some word has come down that it could be August or November depending on the numbers used for calculations apparently.
I'm self isolating, been at it for some time, rarely go out and have settled into a routine. Sleep 2x a day, play a lil FPS games, hang @ ASR, surf the web, chit chat online, sip some rye when I have it and laying low. Don't know if I can do this for months but I'll see. That's the crux of all this. How long can people self isolate and how long can the economy manage that too? I don't see going further than maybe May but some word has come down that it could be August or November depending on the numbers used for calculations apparently.
Can we reject yesterday's evidence-based data and information when today's is different?
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Let's put it this way, that it's too easy to go that way, we take the challenge and try to go the other way
Yep, avoid the ramifications of political influence on response.
That doesn't mean that it may well be the most significant factor in this crisis.
Abide by the forum rule on posting individual partisan political views but don't dismiss the importance of political influences on this problem,
worldwide.
P.S. What is the 'other way'?
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I respectfully point out that many governments have been rejecting evidence-based data, in favour of "feelings". I don't know how that can be separated from politics in a rational discussion of Covid 19, but I will say no more on the topic in favour of using posted information for my personal enlightenment.
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Would seem to me using the most up to date evidence is always preferable.
Yeah, I saw that image today. Really makes one think about this. All over the face and then the hands and in aerosol form. Geeech!
So now we just have a Mess with members arguing over what constitutes ' political ' .
I noticed a huge amount of content in the old thread has no obvious political undertones. Just a few can't manage to maintain that. So if the majority can but a minority can't I'd suggest that would indicate it's possible!
I shut the last thread , really opening a new one is not on .
A definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. You have 24h , any slight hint this is turning political and it will be shut and there will not be a new one !
A tip , if you can't separate the op from politically charged postings don't contribute! Don't spoil it for those that can .
I noticed a huge amount of content in the old thread has no obvious political undertones. Just a few can't manage to maintain that. So if the majority can but a minority can't I'd suggest that would indicate it's possible!
I shut the last thread , really opening a new one is not on .
A definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. You have 24h , any slight hint this is turning political and it will be shut and there will not be a new one !
A tip , if you can't separate the op from politically charged postings don't contribute! Don't spoil it for those that can .
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